Pac-Man, new balls please...

[Greig]

Sorry, but the Australian open is all that's on the telly this week, so I just had to throw in a natty little tennis reference to the title of this thread.

Well, at first I thought Pac deserved the 60-40 split. But hearing Arum describe his OWN FIGHTER'S decision to reject 55-45 as 'bizarre' leads me to wonder what is going on.

Hatton is a beast at 140, and I think he'd handle Manny, especially if he was allowed to fight on the inside.

I think Pac-Man's excursion to 147 was a one-off against an opponent his trainer had pretty good suspicion of being shot.

So, my only conclusion is that Pac-Man's balls aren't as big as I thought they were - why else turn down $11 million.

[Taeth]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

[amat]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

Pacquiao is the one who didnt sign the contract, Hatton didn't turn him down.

[Taeth]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

Pacquiao is the one who didnt sign the contract, Hatton didn't turn him down.

He didn't sign Hatton's contract, I don't see Hatton signing 60/40... Besides I think Arum plays a huge part in this, same with Roach. For people who say its a matter of principle, well Hatton should have no pride right now, These days being a belt champion means nothing, your p4p ranking, your level of opposition are what matter, and Pacquiao has him beat in both areas.

[killersheep]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

Pacquiao is the one who didnt sign the contract, Hatton didn't turn him down.

He didn't sign Hatton's contract, I don't see Hatton signing 60/40... Besides I think Arum plays a huge part in this, same with Roach. For people who say its a matter of principle, well Hatton should have no pride right now, These days being a belt champion means nothing, your p4p ranking, your level of opposition are what matter, and Pacquiao has him beat in both areas.

Hatton is not just a strap holder though, he is the legitimate undisputed lineal champ at 140 and has been since beating Tszyu. The title that matters that is on the line is the Ring Magazine 140 lb title, not just a strap. They are not fighting for the #1 p4p spot, because IF Hatton would win he would not necessarily become #1 p4p although the argument could be made for it.
Camp Hatton offered 52/48 in PACs favor guaranteeing a minimum of $12M, how much did PAC pocket against ODLH?

[Julius Rain]

Pacquiao is the one who didnt sign the contract, Hatton didn't turn him down.

He didn't sign Hatton's contract, I don't see Hatton signing 60/40... Besides I think Arum plays a huge part in this, same with Roach. For people who say its a matter of principle, well Hatton should have no pride right now, These days being a belt champion means nothing, your p4p ranking, your level of opposition are what matter, and Pacquiao has him beat in both areas.

Hatton is not just a strap holder though, he is the legitimate undisputed lineal champ at 140 and has been since beating Tszyu. Camp Hatton offered 52/48 in PACs favor guaranteeing a minimum of $12M, how much did PAC pocket against ODLH?

where did u get your facts from? 12 million was not gauranteed, if it was pac would of signed.

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FYI pac got a 11 million gauranteed against dela hoya if memory serves me right and only 35%.

Do you really think 2% more is a lion share?

hatton needs this fight more, legacy wise. he can redeem himself against pac. Pac can take on other fighters and actually considers a fight against margarito. fighting hatton would be big fan wise, but legacy wise hatton is not the best out there for pac. But for hatton pac is the best match for him legacy wise. Hatton should of agreed to pacs demand.

[Taeth]

Pacquiao is the one who didnt sign the contract, Hatton didn't turn him down.

He didn't sign Hatton's contract, I don't see Hatton signing 60/40... Besides I think Arum plays a huge part in this, same with Roach. For people who say its a matter of principle, well Hatton should have no pride right now, These days being a belt champion means nothing, your p4p ranking, your level of opposition are what matter, and Pacquiao has him beat in both areas.

Hatton is not just a strap holder though, he is the legitimate undisputed lineal champ at 140 and has been since beating Tszyu. The title that matters that is on the line is the Ring Magazine 140 lb title, not just a strap. They are not fighting for the #1 p4p spot, because IF Hatton would win he would not necessarily become #1 p4p although the argument could be made for it.
Camp Hatton offered 52/48 in PACs favor guaranteeing a minimum of $12M, how much did PAC pocket against ODLH?

EVen being the ring champion at 140 doesn't mean anything when compared with what Pacquiao has done. The fact the 140 pound division isn't as strong as it was 4-5 years ago. MOst of the people have moved on to welterweight or retired. Even if Pacquiao wins this belt, its not like he is going to stay around to defend it, he will either go back down to lightweight or fight Mayweather who wouldn't fight at 140.

[Greig]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

You need to work on your tenses Taeth. Here's how the sentence should read:-

Just look at who he has fought in his last 12-15 outings and you will see he had balls that nobody else in the sport had.

[boozeboxer]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

You need to work on your tenses Taeth. Here's how the sentence should read:-

Just look at who he has fought in his last 12-15 outings and you will see he had balls that nobody else in the sport had.

Greig another Grammar departure?? I think these guys are doing all they can....... I can't believe I am taking up for Taeth here.

[Greig]

I'm not really having a go at somebody's grammar mate - christ knows it'd be a full-time gig around here

I'm just pointing out that Pac Man HAD a big set of balls - but if he's turning down 11 million and the lion's share of the profit against Hatton, maybe he's lost them??

[yvonne]

The question i want to know is does Pacman have to pay tax?Is that why he wants more cash than Hatton,,just a thought

[Taeth]

I'm not really having a go at somebody's grammar mate - christ knows it'd be a full-time gig around here

I'm just pointing out that Pac Man HAD a big set of balls - but if he's turning down 11 million and the lion's share of the profit against Hatton, maybe he's lost them??

Yeah because who else has foughten guys like ODLH and JMM in the same year three weight classes apart? Also Christ should be capital considering its a name, it'd is hardly grammatically correct its "it would be". Also you use commas before a but.

[Taeth]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

You need to work on your tenses Taeth. Here's how the sentence should read:-

Just look at who he has fought in his last 12-15 outings and you will see he had balls that nobody else in the sport had.

My tense is fine, I am talking in present tense about what he HAD done, and how it reflects on who he is, at the moment.... idiot.

[miron_lang]

No.

He's just an idiot.

He'll handle Hatton with ease in the ring. I hope it still happens

[generalbulldog]

Sorry, but the Australian open is all that's on the telly this week, so I just had to throw in a natty little tennis reference to the title of this thread.

Well, at first I thought Pac deserved the 60-40 split. But hearing Arum describe his OWN FIGHTER'S decision to reject 55-45 as 'bizarre' leads me to wonder what is going on.

Hatton is a beast at 140, and I think he'd handle Manny, especially if he was allowed to fight on the inside.

I think Pac-Man's excursion to 147 was a one-off against an opponent his trainer had pretty good suspicion of being shot.

So, my only conclusion is that Pac-Man's balls aren't as big as I thought they were - why else turn down $11 million.

I agree with you Pacman is definately scared of Hatton. Hatton would be too much for Pac at 140 imo.