Pac-Man, new balls please...

[Taeth]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

[amat]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

Pacquiao is the one who didnt sign the contract, Hatton didn't turn him down.

[Taeth]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

Pacquiao is the one who didnt sign the contract, Hatton didn't turn him down.

He didn't sign Hatton's contract, I don't see Hatton signing 60/40... Besides I think Arum plays a huge part in this, same with Roach. For people who say its a matter of principle, well Hatton should have no pride right now, These days being a belt champion means nothing, your p4p ranking, your level of opposition are what matter, and Pacquiao has him beat in both areas.

[killersheep]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

Pacquiao is the one who didnt sign the contract, Hatton didn't turn him down.

He didn't sign Hatton's contract, I don't see Hatton signing 60/40... Besides I think Arum plays a huge part in this, same with Roach. For people who say its a matter of principle, well Hatton should have no pride right now, These days being a belt champion means nothing, your p4p ranking, your level of opposition are what matter, and Pacquiao has him beat in both areas.

Hatton is not just a strap holder though, he is the legitimate undisputed lineal champ at 140 and has been since beating Tszyu. The title that matters that is on the line is the Ring Magazine 140 lb title, not just a strap. They are not fighting for the #1 p4p spot, because IF Hatton would win he would not necessarily become #1 p4p although the argument could be made for it.
Camp Hatton offered 52/48 in PACs favor guaranteeing a minimum of $12M, how much did PAC pocket against ODLH?

[Julius Rain]

Pacquiao is the one who didnt sign the contract, Hatton didn't turn him down.

He didn't sign Hatton's contract, I don't see Hatton signing 60/40... Besides I think Arum plays a huge part in this, same with Roach. For people who say its a matter of principle, well Hatton should have no pride right now, These days being a belt champion means nothing, your p4p ranking, your level of opposition are what matter, and Pacquiao has him beat in both areas.

Hatton is not just a strap holder though, he is the legitimate undisputed lineal champ at 140 and has been since beating Tszyu. Camp Hatton offered 52/48 in PACs favor guaranteeing a minimum of $12M, how much did PAC pocket against ODLH?

where did u get your facts from? 12 million was not gauranteed, if it was pac would of signed.

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FYI pac got a 11 million gauranteed against dela hoya if memory serves me right and only 35%.

Do you really think 2% more is a lion share?

hatton needs this fight more, legacy wise. he can redeem himself against pac. Pac can take on other fighters and actually considers a fight against margarito. fighting hatton would be big fan wise, but legacy wise hatton is not the best out there for pac. But for hatton pac is the best match for him legacy wise. Hatton should of agreed to pacs demand.

[Taeth]

Pacquiao is the one who didnt sign the contract, Hatton didn't turn him down.

He didn't sign Hatton's contract, I don't see Hatton signing 60/40... Besides I think Arum plays a huge part in this, same with Roach. For people who say its a matter of principle, well Hatton should have no pride right now, These days being a belt champion means nothing, your p4p ranking, your level of opposition are what matter, and Pacquiao has him beat in both areas.

Hatton is not just a strap holder though, he is the legitimate undisputed lineal champ at 140 and has been since beating Tszyu. The title that matters that is on the line is the Ring Magazine 140 lb title, not just a strap. They are not fighting for the #1 p4p spot, because IF Hatton would win he would not necessarily become #1 p4p although the argument could be made for it.
Camp Hatton offered 52/48 in PACs favor guaranteeing a minimum of $12M, how much did PAC pocket against ODLH?

EVen being the ring champion at 140 doesn't mean anything when compared with what Pacquiao has done. The fact the 140 pound division isn't as strong as it was 4-5 years ago. MOst of the people have moved on to welterweight or retired. Even if Pacquiao wins this belt, its not like he is going to stay around to defend it, he will either go back down to lightweight or fight Mayweather who wouldn't fight at 140.

[Fenster]

He didn't sign Hatton's contract, I don't see Hatton signing 60/40... Besides I think Arum plays a huge part in this, same with Roach. For people who say its a matter of principle, well Hatton should have no pride right now, These days being a belt champion means nothing, your p4p ranking, your level of opposition are what matter, and Pacquiao has him beat in both areas.

Hatton is not just a strap holder though, he is the legitimate undisputed lineal champ at 140 and has been since beating Tszyu. The title that matters that is on the line is the Ring Magazine 140 lb title, not just a strap. They are not fighting for the #1 p4p spot, because IF Hatton would win he would not necessarily become #1 p4p although the argument could be made for it.
Camp Hatton offered 52/48 in PACs favor guaranteeing a minimum of $12M, how much did PAC pocket against ODLH?

EVen being the ring champion at 140 doesn't mean anything when compared with what Pacquiao has done. The fact the 140 pound division isn't as strong as it was 4-5 years ago. MOst of the people have moved on to welterweight or retired. Even if Pacquiao wins this belt, its not like he is going to stay around to defend it, he will either go back down to lightweight or fight Mayweather who wouldn't fight at 140.

Beating the undisputed lineal champ at 140 would mean a whole lot more to Pac's legacy than beating David Diaz at 135 (the weakest strap holder when Pac demolished him) and Oscar at 147, who was rated no where near the top of the division, considered way past his prime and didn't even possess a strap.

[Greig]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

You need to work on your tenses Taeth. Here's how the sentence should read:-

Just look at who he has fought in his last 12-15 outings and you will see he had balls that nobody else in the sport had.

[boozeboxer]

Why is Hatton turning down 11 million? There are bigger fights for Manny before there would be bigger fights for Hatton. Just look at who he has foughten in his last I don't know 12-15 outtings and you will see he's got balls that nobody else in the sport has.

You need to work on your tenses Taeth. Here's how the sentence should read:-

Just look at who he has fought in his last 12-15 outings and you will see he had balls that nobody else in the sport had.

Greig another Grammar departure?? I think these guys are doing all they can....... I can't believe I am taking up for Taeth here.

[Greig]

I'm not really having a go at somebody's grammar mate - christ knows it'd be a full-time gig around here

I'm just pointing out that Pac Man HAD a big set of balls - but if he's turning down 11 million and the lion's share of the profit against Hatton, maybe he's lost them??

[yvonne]

The question i want to know is does Pacman have to pay tax?Is that why he wants more cash than Hatton,,just a thought

[BIG H]

I think Pac would ruin Hatton - sorry to say it

[brucelee]

I guess Pac is doing some psy-war. Roach and Arum will be going to the Philippines and I know Pac-Hatton will push through with Pac getting the bigger share.

Pac will be assured of US$12million and it's foolishness to back out from that money.As a pacfan, I'd say this... Pac's a fool not to fight Hatton. Money should not even be considered here if he wants greatness.

Btw, Pac has never been afraid of anybody within his weight limit and @ 140, Pac will dominate Hatton. IMO

[Bomp]

I think it's more to do with pride than money, after taking the shorter end in many fights which wouldn't have happened otherwise he feels he should be getting the champions share. It may still happen, his biggest beef is with Schaefer, Hatton's camp don't need him on the negotiating table.

[fan johnny]

The question i want to know is does Pacman have to pay tax? Is that why he wants more cash than Hatton,,just a thought

Of course he has to pay tax.... but... the tax he pays to the Philippines has foreign tax exclusions in the US and may even offset his tax in the US. (There is even a chance if it's don right that the contract is done in a way that his earnings are off shore avoiding tax) Plus his tax lawyer should be able to get him lots of credit for bringing economy to the US, not to mention the economy he brings to the Philippines. A lot of his costs are also deductible. (Example his expenses for maintaining two homes, his security ext....) Some of the same is probably true for Hatton although I don't think he maintains a residence in the US. It would definetly be to his advantage. The UK does suck big time when it comes to tax so I don't think Hatton has it as good as Pacquiao. Gotta shutup here.... anway certainly they both have more tax saving advantages enough so that it should make Mayweather Jr. cry. (Imagine that...)