Quote Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
Well if Renzo lost to Carlos Newton, he might not be that good, cuz Newton never really impressed me.

And to that last post, if you've "never seen a good Gracie", I guess you never saw Royce in his early UFC days.
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I've argued with Clydey about ity before I fail to see how any Gracie past or present could hang with any of the top guns today. They'd get their face caved in standing up and be overpowered on the ground

Which Gracies has Sakarabu fought I know hes beaten 3 Gracies and hes good but Wanderlei Silva beats on him on a regular basis