What if they had the ref from the 17th.

[Taeth]

I think the ref from Collazo-Berto would have changed this entire fight. Mosley would have had a point taken away early, he wouldn't have been able to clinch, and man handle Margarito. IMO it would have went much more like Cotto-Margarito except Shane would get hit more and wouldn't be stopped. I mean everytime Margarito started to get going Mosley would tie him up and muscle him around. Margarito has always used his punch output not physical muscle to bully other fighters IMO his strength has been greatly over exaggerated, it was his stamina and ability to take punches that made him so hard to beat because everytime you throw a punch whether it landed or not 3 punches would be coming back, and that is enough to back anyone up, but Margarito has usually come in around 160 pounds, and Cotto was coming in at that during his stay at 140, and Mosley came in the same weight as Margarito but shorter and more sturdy. Physically I say both are stronger than Margarito, but without the clinch his workrate and ability to absorb punches IMO would have beaten both of them. I honestly think having this ref who allowed the clinch(like most refs) really helped Mosley, whereas the ref Berto had really hurt him because he could have and wanted to tie Collazo up the same way like he did against Forbes, but wasn't allowed to.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

Mosley fought something like Hatton throughout the fight, at times.

[Taeth]

And how would either of them done without the clinch? I mean Hatton didn't get to show everything against Mayweather because Cortez was always breaking them up, and I think that hurt Hatton in that fight. Not that he would have won because Mayweather has amazing defensive against anything but a fast southpaw, but it really changed that fight, it changed Holyfield-Tyson, it changes every Klitschko fight. I kept saying that all Cotto needed to do was clinch more and work out of the clinch, and muscle Margarito around, and thats what Mosley did, and I feel vindicated in that.

[RozzySean]

There wasn't a ref in the world who could have saved Tony tonight. He was dominated. Yes, a few more clinches might have allowed Cotto go the distance an lose a decision instead of being stopped. If the ref had been stupid as the ref in the Berto fight, it wouldn't have mattered because Shane was getting the better of Tony inside. Perhaps it would have gone on a little longer, but in the the end would have been the same. The ref being overly sensitive to clinches helped Collazo and contributed to it being a very close fight that many people think Collazo won, yes. Maybe Berto wins two more rounds if he was allowed to clinch. Either way, same result. Berto won.

Tony got his ass kicked from LA to TJ. Beaten, dominated. It was not unlike the way Mayweather dismantled Hatton. If Hatton had been allow by Cortez to clinch more, would Hatton have won? I think not. Maybe he doesn't get KO'd, but he still loses. With or without a single clinch, Tony was going to lose the fight, just like Cotto would have lost (but probably gone the distance) if he would have clinched more.

[Gandalf]

I think a warning and a point deduction would have been completely acceptable. It wouldnt have changed the fact that Mosley was winning every round though. It wouldnt have made too much of a difference IMO.

[No Contest]

Tony almost tackles people he comes forward so much, instead of getting bullrushed into the ropes like Cotto, Shane decided to tie him up and hold his ground. Leave it to Teath to nit-pick a brilliant performance by Shane....