What A Complete Douche

[Trainer Monkey]

I think you could at least "fall asleep" on defense once or twice or even foul them while they are shooting so they can get to the charity stripe.

That coach deserved to be canned

Now if it was High School football, hell no. Some scrubs in football never get the chance to score touchdowns much less PLAY and as long as you're not blitzing or running trick plays then you are good IMO.

I played on a couple of sorry ass football teams, nobody held up when they dropped 70 on us. And when I was on good football teams we didn't stop playing hard when we were blowing teams out of the water....the talent level changed but not the effort given.

You learn a lot by how you lose BUT there is a point where kids (I repeat KIDS) shut down and don't learn to give 100% even when you're losing or learn that there are days when you just don't have it and you have to get back to the grind tomorrow.

Im pretty sure if the coach had something along the lines of,"Hey my bad,I got caught up in the heat of the moment" he'd still be gainfully employed.
Not this guy,he had to send out a snippy email that basically said,"Hey we were right to grind their nose in it"
Im pretty sure thats what got him canned

[El Kabong]

That and I heard there were special needs kids playing ball on the other side......that's pretty fucking foul if true IMO.

He's no different than Steve Spurrier IMO....I loved it when "the old ball coach" got his shit kicked in by Nebraska in 1995-1996

[amat]

They had a fullcourt press on

My brother got to play at a reasonably high level of football, he was on the repeat national champions for JUCO, they ended up having 21 D1 players and 3 NFL players (Gibril Wilson, Paasha Jackson and one other whom I don't know) and they once ran up the score to over 150 points on a semi-pro football team before the season's first game. They had 21 points called back on penalties and afterwards all they heard about was those 21 points.

No word on if those semipro football players were retarded.

[boozeboxer]

What JUCO team?

[amat]

What JUCO team?

City College Of San Francisco, it's the most successful JUCO program in the sport though it's actually on a slide, lost 5 games last year with Chris Forni (my high school's quarterback) at helm and they don't have anywhere near 21 D1 players anymore. That's nuts.

I don't know if we have any Sooner fans but Lance Mitchell and Paasha Jackson both went to CCSF so did Chijoke Onyenegecha who was the biggest JUCO recruit that whole year. Chijoke was ridiculous but he ended up getting the lowest Wonderlic score of all time and plays in Canada now.

But yeah JUCO football almost operates at a higher level then D1AA or AAA. Their games were nuts. George Rush the coach has been offered the defensive coordinator jobs at USC and Cal and has declined them all.

Goddamn I dont think anybody cares at all I feel like such a clown. But you asked.

[Youngblood]

You are right Sharla, in that boxing is not a good analogy. I was trying to use it from a personal perspective to explore your original thoughts on not going easy and looking for a reason to understand why.

Where I have to disagree with you, is on the total separation of physical harm, to say, emotional. I think that is making an assumption here that the girls were all okey dokie with the loss until the media got involved. That they were learning a life lesson about losing and so on...that 'there is more then just winning' etc. I mean, the team hasn't won in 4 years, surely they have gotten that lesson already. This seemed almost cruel.

I agree that it certainly/likely made matters worse and is surely more embarrassing knowing that now the entire planet is tuned in. That dyslexia is being misinterpreted/misunderstood in it also.

The more I have read about this, the more I feel it was an extreme case of poor sportsmanship. From what I have read...the coach ran the score up to 100, and then they went into a full guard for the last 4 minutes of the game, no longer scoring, just to keep the score at 100 - 0. Why would they do that? To show it off, my only guess. Kinda rubbing it in their faces? How did it feel to have that happen. We don't know, we weren't there. I can't imagine it didn't feel too good.

But yes it must be a lot worse that we are discussing it here, that many others elsewhere likely are also if in fact some people are paying for it in humiliation.

This I found a good summation for the story.

Editorial: Final lesson from 100-0 game | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Opinion: Editorials

[Sharla]

You are right Sharla, in that boxing is not a good analogy. I was trying to use it from a personal perspective to explore your original thoughts on not going easy and looking for a reason to understand why.

Where I have to disagree with you, is on the total separation of physical harm, to say, emotional. I think that is making an assumption here that the girls were all okey dokie with the loss until the media got involved. That they were learning a life lesson about losing and so on...that 'there is more then just winning' etc. I mean, the team hasn't won in 4 years, surely they have gotten that lesson already. This seemed almost cruel.

I agree that it certainly/likely made matters worse and is surely more embarrassing knowing that now the entire planet is tuned in. That dyslexia is being misinterpreted/misunderstood in it also.

The more I have read about this, the more I feel it was an extreme case of poor sportsmanship. From what I have read...the coach ran the score up to 100, and then they went into a full guard for the last 4 minutes of the game, no longer scoring, just to keep the score at 100 - 0. Why would they do that? To show it off, my only guess. Kinda rubbing it in their faces? How did it feel to have that happen. We don't know, we weren't there. I can't imagine it didn't feel too good.

But yes it must be a lot worse that we are discussing it here, that many others elsewhere likely are also if in fact some people are paying for it in humiliation.

This I found a good summation for the story.

Editorial: Final lesson from 100-0 game | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Opinion: Editorials

Yeah I do agree the coach is not real mature. I see that.

I do wonder if you do have any emotional harm after being on a 4 year loosing streak. I think you'd be immune. You'd be assuming you'd loose before the game started and get over it because winning has not been your reason for being there at all.

When I played hockey on the team which was always short of players we knew we didn't have to be embarassed because we had to run so much more to make up numbers just the effort and resilience did get respect from our opponents regardless of whether or not it got respect from their coach.

We'd have a collective giggle about people on the opposite team who took it too seriously. As far as we were concerned they were the joke because in that level of competition you are waaaaay below the level where you need to be so serious and you make a fool of yourself if you do.

We also didn't bother with a practice because we were a country team with no home ground or central training area. Our fees were MUCH cheaper than all the serious teams. We had no coach.

All those things contributed to the social side of it. We hung around as a group longer than the other teams. We celebrated birthdays more. We had an annual awards thing with prizes for all sorts of ridiculous things as well as most improved, most tenacious etc etc.

We had a LOT more fun than the more competitive teams regardless of the score! Making a news item about how crap we were and we'd all be hiding under rocks though!

[Wayne]

You are right Sharla, in that boxing is not a good analogy. I was trying to use it from a personal perspective to explore your original thoughts on not going easy and looking for a reason to understand why.

Where I have to disagree with you, is on the total separation of physical harm, to say, emotional. I think that is making an assumption here that the girls were all okey dokie with the loss until the media got involved. That they were learning a life lesson about losing and so on...that 'there is more then just winning' etc. I mean, the team hasn't won in 4 years, surely they have gotten that lesson already. This seemed almost cruel.

I agree that it certainly/likely made matters worse and is surely more embarrassing knowing that now the entire planet is tuned in. That dyslexia is being misinterpreted/misunderstood in it also.

The more I have read about this, the more I feel it was an extreme case of poor sportsmanship. From what I have read...the coach ran the score up to 100, and then they went into a full guard for the last 4 minutes of the game, no longer scoring, just to keep the score at 100 - 0. Why would they do that? To show it off, my only guess. Kinda rubbing it in their faces? How did it feel to have that happen. We don't know, we weren't there. I can't imagine it didn't feel too good.

But yes it must be a lot worse that we are discussing it here, that many others elsewhere likely are also if in fact some people are paying for it in humiliation.

This I found a good summation for the story.

Editorial: Final lesson from 100-0 game | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Opinion: Editorials

Here's the lesson they haven't caught onto yet: quit. If you haven't won in that long you're doing something wrong and it's time to go do something else. If I had operated on 12 people's brains guess how many of them would be alive today? 0, because I suck at neurosurgery. And it's not a matter of whether or not it makes me feel bad. Some things just aren't for me, or other people in their turn, to do. I find it shameful that the people who could have done something about it (coaches, parents, etc.) haven't because everyone is about making people feel good about themselves. There's nothing wrong with giving children, especially these, a good sense of self-esteem, but there's also something to being realistic. This goes in the same vein as ball-less dodgeball and rope-less jump rope. It's a tremendous disservice to children as it leaves them without taking any steps closer to what they will experience in real life. What, are we to continue the facade in adulthood? Do we not tell little Jimmy he crushed Mrs. Johnson eggs when he put them at the bottom of the bag beneath the frozen ham? If Little Cindy's accounting error costs the client $10,000 we should just shake a finger at her? That's not real life. And if you protect people from it they'll only be crushed even more when it eventually catches up to them.

[boozeboxer]

I care Amat. I went to a JUCO that was really good at basketball. They didn't have a football team. They had alot of D1 players though. Mitch Richmond went there.

[Sharla]

I'd be more humiliated by the world reading I'm a sports retard just because i get letters mixed up occasionally when I write than any loss.

Sure the coach took it way too seriously but I still think the article is worse.

I also don't think any analogies to boxing or contact sports are fair. Of course if someone is getting hit physically you go easy or point score rather than KO.

The competition is not worth doing someone extra physical damage but a high school game of basketball is not like that at all - it is already only points - until some idiot makes it national news and humiliates the loosing team!

I'd bet the loosing team disintegrates now and it'll have nothing to do with the loss and everything to do with this unwanted attention for being on a loosing streak and that humiliation. The whole thing should have been handled with a lot more discretion or just let go.

Being on a loosing team and still finishing and having fun with it is character building. It keeps things in perspective - says you know what this is fun and it's ok not to be perfect. I'm here to hang out with my friends and just give it a go. Some things are just more important than others. Now they can't have that without it being equalling national humiliation!

[Trainer Monkey]

I'd be more humiliated by the world reading I'm a sports retard just because i get letters mixed up occasionally when I write than any loss.

Sure the coach took it way too seriously but I still think the article is worse.

I also don't think any analogies to boxing or contact sports are fair. Of course if someone is getting hit physically you go easy or point score rather than KO.

The competition is not worth doing someone extra physical damage but a high school game of basketball is not like that at all - it is already only points - until some idiot makes it national news and humiliates the loosing team!

I'd bet the loosing team disintegrates now and it'll have nothing to do with the loss and everything to do with this unwanted attention for being on a loosing streak and that humiliation. The whole thing should have been handled with a lot more discretion or just let go.

Being on a loosing team and still finishing and having fun with it is character building. It keeps things in perspective - says you know what this is fun and it's ok not to be perfect. I'm here to hang out with my friends and just give it a go. Some things are just more important than others. Now they can't have that without it being equalling national humiliation!

The ref can stop a fight

[El Kabong]

The ref can stop a fight

.....they COULD but usually they don't otherwise Gerald McClellan would have won by 1st round TKO over Nigel Benn and wouldn't be partially blind, deaf, paralyzed, and living in a trailer on very little if any income.