Here's the only person that will beat floyd...

**bigragu** · 05-10-2006 04:54 AM

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

I'm a mayweather fan and follower since he was in the olympics....PBF can win..but mosely has a way better chance of beating floyd, than pbf would have of beating shane...that's right now even with mosely being 34 he'd be too much for floyd to handle....hopefully for floyd it doesn't happen..i think floyd can win a close decision..but shane can win by stoppage or decision...so he has the better chance...and before anyone says it...if you think shane would still only throw 1 or 2 punches at a time at 147 you'd be in for a rude awakening and so would floyd if he believed that'd be the case too...

i just wanted to get this on record in case they do fight....

I agree.....and for all those that keep regurgitating "Hatton" look to the gatti fight.....

**Unknowndonor** · 05-10-2006 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

Shane has problems with defensive fighters{Winky}, Floyd is faster, has better legs and hand speed. Mosely edges in power but thats it. Plus, Mosely has looked like he is having stamina problems, and Floyd can go more than 12. If Mosely didn't get a ko within 5, I can't see him winning ever, against Floyd. This fight would resemble the Judah fight. Mosely would start goo, then Floyd would take over and dominate. Shane's speed is not what Floyd's is, that's wrong. His footwork is not as good, and his D is a grade below at least. The biggest separation is stamina. Shane is only stronger because he's been at 147-154 longer than Floyd.

Man i know it hard to remember what shane looked like at 147..that's why he's been having stamina problem he doesn't do as much cardio because he's not natrually even close to 154 he tries to keep his muscle on...that why he looks slow...and the strength is always there he was benching 330+ at 135...i know that does not translate to punching power but it and idea..at his proper weight which would be 147 right now at his age...he'd be light years faster than he his at 154..do you remember his last fight at 147? and shane has just as good footwork as PBF...when have you ever seen shane off balance or reaching with his punches? almost never...the inly time i can remember him off balance was because Oscar hit him with a left while he moving against the ropes.

Judah? Shane would muder judah in the ring..it would look like mercer v morrison...shane would put judah in the coma....shane doesn't give up like judah and is stronger to the body than judah...and is way smarter than judah...

Wait a minute. I'm not saying that Judah would beat Shane. I was just saying that Floyd would take over after a few rounds like he did against Judah. Mosely going back down to 147 would help, but he is still alot older now, and he would be a little quicker, but not light years. Also, the footwork is close balance wise. I meant that Floyd can move in and out alot faster than Shane can. I just can't see Shane winning unless he pulled out an early KO, which is possible, but not likely.

**JonesJrMayweather** · 05-10-2006 05:07 AM

Nah I know you weren't saying judah could beat shane..i just like to say that because i remember judah saying that shane ran from him after the fight with oscar...that all..

Just sit in a dark room and try to recall the shane from 147...i said even at 75% of the prime 147 shane would be too much for floyd....shane by (SD,UD, KO, TKO) floyd by (SD,UD)... 55-45 for shane...although i don't care who'd win because they're both in my top 4 all time...and i might be pulling for PBF because i want him to retire undefeated, but i wouldn't be mad if he lost to shane....

**Unknowndonor** · 05-10-2006 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Nah I know you weren't saying judah could beat shane..i just like to say that because i remember judah saying that shane ran from him after the fight with oscar...that all..

Just sit in a dark room and try to recall the shane from 147...i said even at 75% of the prime 147 shane would be too much for floyd....shane by (SD,UD, KO, TKO) floyd by (SD,UD)... 55-45 for shane...although i don't care who'd win because they're both in my top 4 all time...and i might be pulling for PBF because i want him to retire undefeated, but i wouldn't be mad if he lost to shane....

Shane has a chance, I'm not doubting that at all. But, he will fade late. And if it's close, Floyd will pull out the win. I can't see Shane dominating for more than 4 rounds. After that, Floyd will have him figured, just like Forrest, and Winky. I'm sure Floyd already has a gameplan of what he would do. Shane poses a big threat right now. If Floyd wins a couple of more fights at welter, and grows into the weight, and they were to fight next year, Floyd wins for sure.

**DaxxKahn** · 05-10-2006 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Other than floyd being stupid and moving up to 154....the only person in the world that can beat floyd..

Is shane mosely at 147...period...everybody else loses

I'm a mayweather fan and follower since he was in the olympics....PBF can win..but mosely has a way better chance of beating floyd, than pbf would have of beating shane...that's right now even with mosely being 34 he'd be too much for floyd to handle....hopefully for floyd it doesn't happen..i think floyd can win a close decision..but shane can win by stoppage or decision...so he has the better chance...and before anyone says it...if you think shane would still only throw 1 or 2 punches at a time at 147 you'd be in for a rude awakening and so would floyd if he believed that'd be the case too...

i just wanted to get this on record in case they do fight....

I would agree to that if we were talking about Mosley of the old....I would put the Mosley that fought DLH the first time against a prime Mayweather at any weight and pick Mosley every time...But now he just doesn't have what he used to..

**Taeth** · 05-10-2006 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Originally Posted by Taeth

Your wrong. Shane Mosley doesn't have a chance.. He's too slow now, and he would be caught all night... Even in his prime Mosley had fast a** combinations, but his individual punches lacked the speed Mayweather has. No way can Shane win... he would be countered and humiliated all night.

He's only slow because he's packed too much muscle onto his body..and fighting at 154 is ridiculous..PBF would look the same way at 154...if mosely dropped to 147 his speed and footwork would be drastically different...remember this post..in case the fight happens...

i like them both....i think floyd can win a close decision, I also think mosely can win a close decision or stop floyd...so i don't really care who wins..although i'd be pulling for PBF because i want him to retire undefeated...

Mosley had already lost loads of speed by the time he was 147... Its his age not his weight that makes him way slower than he used to be in reflexes, and in every other way. Mosley doesn't have the power he used to, and Vargas who is way slower than Mayweather could him alot of times which would have never happened to a younger Mosley...