shadow boxing with weights

[Drago]

I do shadow kickboxing alot & my wife has sum of those sissy dumbell weights, what benefits will holding the weights do whilst shadowboxing? do they help with speed & will they help build muscle in my shoulders?

[Scrap]

There are better ways, Ill come back Im playing Question Time

[Howlin Mad Missy]

lol.

Drago are you looking to train for speed or endurance?

I've done it occasionally. Not sure how beneficial it is. I think you'd have to be consistant with it. It's like training with bag gloves then putting on 18oz sparring gloves. You feel a difference. Problem is I've found is that because of the extra weight people slow their punches down. If you're looking for speed you don't want to do that.

[Scrap]

Rubber is better, it works and has the same propertys as muscle and the joints. The more you open the joint the weaker it becomes if you get my meaning.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

You mean those exercise band thingies? I like those.

Do you mean open as in the potential for hyper extension? Or just open as in away from the body?

[Scrap]

The more you extend a joint the weaker it becomes the more you stretch bands the weaker it becomes, plus it brings the Hands back naturally with the recoil. Ive noticed at the Uni a lot of press and Squat machines are being tested with Rubber instead of weigths at the moment, seems someone is taking notice at last.

[killersheep]

I did a little shadow boxing with light weights, never full force or fast though. I would do 1 round with 5 pound weights really, really slow focusing on form and getting my hands back to my face. I would then do another round with 3 pound weights slightly increasing speed. I would never fully extend or punch full power with weights in my hands. After that I would drop the weights and do a few rounds full speed. I definately noticed an improvement in my hand speed. Admittedly my advice is bad though because my trainer was a conditioning guy not a boxing coach.

[Drago]

cheers guys, yo killersheep i am looking more for conditioning anyway just want to try something different, sounds like i gotta take it easy with them then or risk injury?

[Drago]

lol.

Drago are you looking to train for speed or endurance?

I've done it occasionally. Not sure how beneficial it is. I think you'd have to be consistant with it. It's like training with bag gloves then putting on 18oz sparring gloves. You feel a difference. Problem is I've found is that because of the extra weight people slow their punches down. If you're looking for speed you don't want to do that.

more speed but would be good if i could build some muscle on shoulders @ the same time

[killersheep]

cheers guys, yo killersheep i am looking more for conditioning anyway just want to try something different, sounds like i gotta take it easy with them then or risk injury?

Yeah definately take it easy with them, like I said never ever fully extend or go full speed with weights. For conditioning on top of regular roadwork he had me do a lot of pull-ups, sledgehammer swings, a few kettlebell exercises, plyometric jumps like box jumps, split jumps and the like, and whatever it's called when you flip a tractor tire over. A big thing that helped me with my conditioning was in every session doing a warm-up then plyometric exercise, some kind of compound lifting, something for balance, something to work on reaction, bag work and finish with some low impact cardio. Keep in mind I wasn't specifically training to box though, I just wanted to get stronger and faster in general. Anything Scrap says to contradict this, take his word for it not mine.

A great exercise to strengthen your shoulders is to get dumbells and hold both of your arms straight out to the sides until you can't hold them out anymore count 3 slow breaths lift them out in front you again until you can't hold them anymore count 3 slow breaths again and repeat 3 times, don't do this before bagwork or you will regret it.

[Salty]

I think the worst thing about them is they teach you to be tense while punching, instead of making a fist at the end of the motion your doing it from the get go. A muscle will only do what it has been taught, so you don't want to teach it an inefficient motion, velcro straps and elastic can add great resistance for much greater benefit.

[Trainer Monkey]

You mean those exercise band thingies? I like those.

Do you mean open as in the potential for hyper extension? Or just open as in away from the body?

Yeah Dyna Bands,thats what I prefer as well,not only do you have to work to get the shots off,it teaches the muscle memory of quickly getting your hands back in to round

[Drago]

good job i asked u guys otherwise i would of ended up doing jabs with 50kilo weights ha ha

&
spent rest of year in hospital

[BoxingDude66]

Rubber is better, it works and has the same propertys as muscle and the joints. The more you open the joint the weaker it becomes if you get my meaning.

Now are you talking about the long resistance bands, or the pro shadow boxer thing.


I own one of those pro shadow boxers that look like this:

Everlast Pro Shadow Boxer from Title MMA


However, it really only works straight punches, which is good, but its not good for throwing hooks and uppercuts.