So many so called PBF supporters have short memories

[Trainer Monkey]

it wasn't insured that's why offered a reward for the return...

No,its personal property so of course youd offer a reward to have it returned.
And you just contradicted yourself if he was so broke,where did he find the money to even offer a reward for 5 million in jewelery?

never said he was broke, and he only offered 100k for for the return of 5 mil in jewelry...

and if you lose 5 in jewelry plus 6 to the feds...thats almost half of the money he won against delahoya

Something to keep in mind
If you owe 6 million in taxes,that means you had a significantly higher amount in income to be taxed in that fiscal year.
He made more off the interest and investment off that money,then the IRS fine

[JonesJrMayweather]

No,its personal property so of course youd offer a reward to have it returned.
And you just contradicted yourself if he was so broke,where did he find the money to even offer a reward for 5 million in jewelery?

never said he was broke, and he only offered 100k for for the return of 5 mil in jewelry...

and if you lose 5 in jewelry plus 6 to the feds...thats almost half of the money he won against delahoya

Something to keep in mind
If you owe 6 million in taxes,that means you had a significantly higher amount in income to be taxed in that fiscal year.
He made more off the interest and investment off that money,then the IRS fine

Money Woes Continue To Press Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Boxing News

floyd needs money...fuck what youre saying. Anybody who spends money like that, has a gambling problem, poor investment in filthy rich records which still hasnt sold a record, constantly lies about how much he's worth said he got 20mill for wwe when it was just 2mil. Floyd's money mayweather bullshit seems to have gotten into his head more than anyone else.

he'll be back for the money, which mean he'll be fighting the little non threatening winner of pac v hatton..and not shane the undisputed WW champ.

[Trainer Monkey]

never said he was broke, and he only offered 100k for for the return of 5 mil in jewelry...

and if you lose 5 in jewelry plus 6 to the feds...thats almost half of the money he won against delahoya

Something to keep in mind
If you owe 6 million in taxes,that means you had a significantly higher amount in income to be taxed in that fiscal year.
He made more off the interest and investment off that money,then the IRS fine

Money Woes Continue To Press Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Boxing News

floyd needs money...fuck what youre saying. Anybody who spends money like that, has a gambling problem, poor investment in filthy rich records which still hasnt sold a record, constantly lies about how much he's worth said he got 20mill for wwe when it was just 2mil. Floyd's money mayweather bullshit seems to have gotten into his head more than anyone else.

he'll be back for the money, which mean he'll be fighting the little non threatening winner of pac v hatton..and not shane the undisputed WW champ.

He made more then he lost on that one stupid WWE PPV he showed up at

[RP33]

i think between JT rock, ICB, TM and myself among others that this guy has handily gotten rocked in this thread.

it's just funny how he speaks of the "old members" vouching for him, when it's the old members calling him an idiot.

See: delusional

[JonesJrMayweather]

i think between JT rock, ICB, TM and myself among others that this guy has handily gotten rocked in this thread.

it's just funny how he speaks of the "old members" vouching for him, when it's the old members calling him an idiot.

See: delusional

When i said vouch for me i meant in the fact that I ve been saying since joining this forum that shane has the best chance to beat floyd and that any other fighter between 140 147 pbf would beat easily. shane is the only one that give him a serious test.

And most of the old members also thought that hatton would beat floyd...when i said floyd would easily beat him even before they fought. then before the fight came on here and picked floyd in 10....the same way most of the old members were screaming about margarito when i called him a bum that hadn't proven anything..then pick williams to beat him. and said that floyd would make him look like corrales.

And i'm only stating this about shane again, because just four years ago, when i said shane is the only that beat him (pbf) it still stands. evidenced by shane nearly beating cotto, and destroying who for a long time was this forums "he'll beat floyd guy" margarito. Guranteed if floyd signs to fight shane it will be one of the best fights in history and shane could very well kayo floyd or stop him late. And say this too since people get sensitive about these guys like they're being paid by them to be yes men...

Just because I say "SHANE HAS THE BEST SHOT, AND CAN POSSIBLY BEAT FLOYD, DOESN"T MEAN FLOYD CAN"T BEAT HIM",

i'm simply stating that in terms of mental ability, skills, and power. shane will be the best floyd has ever faced and vice versa. But i still would bet on shane....but would'nt be disappointed if either of them lost. can the PBF nut huggers say the same? I doubt it....

[RP33]

i think between JT rock, ICB, TM and myself among others that this guy has handily gotten rocked in this thread.

it's just funny how he speaks of the "old members" vouching for him, when it's the old members calling him an idiot.

See: delusional

When i said vouch for me i meant in the fact that I ve been saying since joining this forum that shane has the best chance to beat floyd and that any other fighter between 140 147 pbf would beat easily. shane is the only one that give him a serious test.

And most of the old members also thought that hatton would beat floyd...when i said floyd would easily beat him even before they fought. then before the fight came on here and picked floyd in 10....the same way most of the old members were screaming about margarito when i called him a bum that hadn't proven anything..then pick williams to beat him. and said that floyd would make him look like corrales.

And i'm only stating this about shane again, because just four years ago, when i said shane is the only that beat him (pbf) it still stands. evidenced by shane nearly beating cotto, and destroying who for a long time was this forums "he'll beat floyd guy" margarito. Guranteed if floyd signs to fight shane it will be one of the best fights in history and shane could very well kayo floyd or stop him late. And say this too since people get sensitive about these guys like they're being paid by them to be yes men...

Just because I say "SHANE HAS THE BEST SHOT, AND CAN POSSIBLY BEAT FLOYD, DOESN"T MEAN FLOYD CAN"T BEAT HIM",

i'm simply stating that in terms of mental ability, skills, and power. shane will be the best floyd has ever faced and vice versa. But i still would bet on shane....but would'nt be disappointed if either of them lost. can the PBF nut huggers say the same? I doubt it....

I don't think you realize exactly how stupid you're acting. So you speculated something 4 years ago, to this day Floyd and SSM have not fought. If he beat him, then go back and show us the post, it's useless right now. You have not accomplished anything you fool. What are you so proud of?

You're purely speculating saying that Shane has the best chance. This is your opinion, and you're failing at providing evidence making these ridiculous posts.

You're delusional. I'm not saying that Shane doesn't have a chance, i'm just saying that your method of trying to convince someone that he will win for the reasons you gave are just absolutely so out there.

In your mind you consider Floyd fans nut-huggers because you're so used to being one. I'm simply a fan of Floyd's skills and don't see anyone out there who can beat him.. simply because of his dominance over his opponents and his ability to adapt. Am i open to a debate over someone pleading their case for shane? Absolutely. But not your stupid posts about Shane breaking his ribs cause he's so strong and fast and god-like. idiot.

[JonesJrMayweather]

i think between JT rock, ICB, TM and myself among others that this guy has handily gotten rocked in this thread.

it's just funny how he speaks of the "old members" vouching for him, when it's the old members calling him an idiot.

See: delusional

When i said vouch for me i meant in the fact that I ve been saying since joining this forum that shane has the best chance to beat floyd and that any other fighter between 140 147 pbf would beat easily. shane is the only one that give him a serious test.

And most of the old members also thought that hatton would beat floyd...when i said floyd would easily beat him even before they fought. then before the fight came on here and picked floyd in 10....the same way most of the old members were screaming about margarito when i called him a bum that hadn't proven anything..then pick williams to beat him. and said that floyd would make him look like corrales.

And i'm only stating this about shane again, because just four years ago, when i said shane is the only that beat him (pbf) it still stands. evidenced by shane nearly beating cotto, and destroying who for a long time was this forums "he'll beat floyd guy" margarito. Guranteed if floyd signs to fight shane it will be one of the best fights in history and shane could very well kayo floyd or stop him late. And say this too since people get sensitive about these guys like they're being paid by them to be yes men...

Just because I say "SHANE HAS THE BEST SHOT, AND CAN POSSIBLY BEAT FLOYD, DOESN"T MEAN FLOYD CAN"T BEAT HIM",

i'm simply stating that in terms of mental ability, skills, and power. shane will be the best floyd has ever faced and vice versa. But i still would bet on shane....but would'nt be disappointed if either of them lost. can the PBF nut huggers say the same? I doubt it....

I don't think you realize exactly how stupid you're acting. So you speculated something 4 years ago, to this day Floyd and SSM have not fought. If he beat him, then go back and show us the post, it's useless right now. You have not accomplished anything you fool. What are you so proud of?

You're purely speculating saying that Shane has the best chance. This is your opinion, and you're failing at providing evidence making these ridiculous posts.

You're delusional. I'm not saying that Shane doesn't have a chance, i'm just saying that your method of trying to convince someone that he will win for the reasons you gave are just absolutely so out there.

In your mind you consider Floyd fans nut-huggers because you're so used to being one. I'm simply a fan of Floyd's skills and don't see anyone out there who can beat him.. simply because of his dominance over his opponents and his ability to adapt. Am i open to a debate over someone pleading their case for shane? Absolutely. But not your stupid posts about Shane breaking his ribs cause he's so strong and fast and god-like. idiot.

you obviously can't understand english...

If I say "floyd uses the philly shell standing infront of mosely, mosley will break his ribs because of the numerous well placed body shots he will absorb" that giving a reason why shane has a good shot.

If I say "floyd has never fought a fighter with overall package of shane and floyd will have to fight his best fight, meaning everything he's shown and then some" That's another reason why shane poses the biggest threat.

If i say "floyd will more than likely wear the soft gloves to protect his hands so his punches won't have as much affect on shane who already is a fighter that has been hit by guys that hit much harder than floyd" Another reason why shane has the best shot.

If I say "now that shane has re-invented his jab, and has a longer reach than floyd" another reason why he could beat floyd.

It seems that youre the one who thinks floyd is god-like, and he is not light years ahead of his era...true dominant p4p fighters like sweet pea, chavez, RJJ, and shane..all dominated with skill and power. These are facts. Floyd hasn't looked like a complete fighter since he beat corralles. the rest was just him realizing that he doesn't have to move because the guys he faced arent that quick, and in the case of judah where he was quick wasn't that smart.

And if i have to point out to you that when i said shane would break his ribs you took that to mean "shane has dragon ball strength" then you obviously think of fights in terms of one round. Over 12 or even 6 where floyd likes to sit in the pocket during the second half of the fight. Shane would beat the hell out of his body. result...broken ribs.

[RozzySean]

i think between JT rock, ICB, TM and myself among others that this guy has handily gotten rocked in this thread.

it's just funny how he speaks of the "old members" vouching for him, when it's the old members calling him an idiot.

See: delusional

When i said vouch for me i meant in the fact that I ve been saying since joining this forum that shane has the best chance to beat floyd and that any other fighter between 140 147 pbf would beat easily. shane is the only one that give him a serious test.

And most of the old members also thought that hatton would beat floyd...when i said floyd would easily beat him even before they fought. then before the fight came on here and picked floyd in 10....the same way most of the old members were screaming about margarito when i called him a bum that hadn't proven anything..then pick williams to beat him. and said that floyd would make him look like corrales.

And i'm only stating this about shane again, because just four years ago, when i said shane is the only that beat him (pbf) it still stands. evidenced by shane nearly beating cotto, and destroying who for a long time was this forums "he'll beat floyd guy" margarito. Guranteed if floyd signs to fight shane it will be one of the best fights in history and shane could very well kayo floyd or stop him late. And say this too since people get sensitive about these guys like they're being paid by them to be yes men...

Just because I say "SHANE HAS THE BEST SHOT, AND CAN POSSIBLY BEAT FLOYD, DOESN"T MEAN FLOYD CAN"T BEAT HIM",

i'm simply stating that in terms of mental ability, skills, and power. shane will be the best floyd has ever faced and vice versa. But i still would bet on shane....but would'nt be disappointed if either of them lost. can the PBF nut huggers say the same? I doubt it....

I love that you are defending Shane, and I'm 95% with you, but you gotta keep a little perspective. Taeth, once in a while, makes a good, intelligent point, and even though I said in another thread that Shane has the best chance to beat Floyd, that's a matter really up for debate. From a matchup point of view, Pac is actually the better bet because he's a southpaw with a great straight right and amazing speed. Mayweather/Pac is an awesome matchup to consider.

I've spend a lot of time arguing for Shane having a good chance against Floyd, but that good chance depends on Nazim come up with a plan that will allow Shane to maximize his advantages and take Floyd out of his game. It also depends to some degree on Floyd's willingness to follow the blueprint that has been laid out to beat Mosley...disrupt him with hard jabs. That's not how Floyd has been fighting recently, but in the past he has used the jab effectively. PBF has shown an amazing ability to adapt, and Shane hasn't. That being said, I've haven't seen Shane do much anything different since I've been watching him, and this weekend, he used the jab more, he was more elusive, and he used the clinch effectively. He was a smarter fighter, and maybe the change in trainer can have big effect.

For Shane to beat Floyd, he's going to need a plan that will allow him to land consistently AND avoid getting strafed by counters. He's going to need to fight differently than he has most of his career, and if Floyd can resurrect his best jab and really commit to it, I don't know if Mosley would be able to win anyway, but I also don't know if Floyd throwing crisp, snappy up-jabs from the shell will have the same effect on Mosley as Forrest, Winky, and Cotto throwing hard jabs from a conventional hand position. Even so, Floyd might be so good that he can beat Shane without the jab. This is Floyd Mayweather we're talking about.

I wouldn't favor Shane, but I can him winning. So if you put down $$$, you better be getting better than even money. Floyd is the favorite, no question. If the odds are 2 to 1, I'll think about laying a few bucks on Mosley. If the odds are 4 to 1, I'll be putting down a chunk of cash on him.

[JonesJrMayweather]

i think between JT rock, ICB, TM and myself among others that this guy has handily gotten rocked in this thread.

it's just funny how he speaks of the "old members" vouching for him, when it's the old members calling him an idiot.

See: delusional

When i said vouch for me i meant in the fact that I ve been saying since joining this forum that shane has the best chance to beat floyd and that any other fighter between 140 147 pbf would beat easily. shane is the only one that give him a serious test.

And most of the old members also thought that hatton would beat floyd...when i said floyd would easily beat him even before they fought. then before the fight came on here and picked floyd in 10....the same way most of the old members were screaming about margarito when i called him a bum that hadn't proven anything..then pick williams to beat him. and said that floyd would make him look like corrales.

And i'm only stating this about shane again, because just four years ago, when i said shane is the only that beat him (pbf) it still stands. evidenced by shane nearly beating cotto, and destroying who for a long time was this forums "he'll beat floyd guy" margarito. Guranteed if floyd signs to fight shane it will be one of the best fights in history and shane could very well kayo floyd or stop him late. And say this too since people get sensitive about these guys like they're being paid by them to be yes men...

Just because I say "SHANE HAS THE BEST SHOT, AND CAN POSSIBLY BEAT FLOYD, DOESN"T MEAN FLOYD CAN"T BEAT HIM",

i'm simply stating that in terms of mental ability, skills, and power. shane will be the best floyd has ever faced and vice versa. But i still would bet on shane....but would'nt be disappointed if either of them lost. can the PBF nut huggers say the same? I doubt it....

I love that you are defending Shane, and I'm 95% with you, but you gotta keep a little perspective. Taeth, once in a while, makes a good, intelligent point, and even though I said in another thread that Shane has the best chance to beat Floyd, that's a matter really up for debate. From a matchup point of view, Pac is actually the better bet because he's a southpaw with a great straight right and amazing speed. Mayweather/Pac is an awesome matchup to consider.

I've spend a lot of time arguing for Shane having a good chance against Floyd, but that good chance depends on Nazim come up with a plan that will allow Shane to maximize his advantages and take Floyd out of his game. It also depends to some degree on Floyd's willingness to follow the blueprint that has been laid out to beat Mosley...disrupt him with hard jabs. That's not how Floyd has been fighting recently, but in the past he has used the jab effectively. PBF has shown an amazing ability to adapt, and Shane hasn't. That being said, I've haven't seen Shane do much anything different since I've been watching him, and this weekend, he used the jab more, he was more elusive, and he used the clinch effectively. He was a smarter fighter, and maybe the change in trainer can have big effect.

For Shane to beat Floyd, he's going to need a plan that will allow him to land consistently AND avoid getting strafed by counters. He's going to need to fight differently than he has most of his career, and if Floyd can resurrect his best jab and really commit to it, I don't know if Mosley would be able to win anyway, but I also don't know if Floyd throwing crisp, snappy up-jabs from the shell will have the same effect on Mosley as Forrest, Winky, and Cotto throwing hard jabs from a conventional hand position. Even so, Floyd might be so good that he can beat Shane without the jab. This is Floyd Mayweather we're talking about.

I wouldn't favor Shane, but I can him winning. So if you put down $$$, you better be getting better than even money. Floyd is the favorite, no question. If the odds are 2 to 1, I'll think about laying a few bucks on Mosley. If the odds are 4 to 1, I'll be putting down a chunk of cash on him.

Man i think while pac is good he stands about as much of chance as beating floyd as hatton. He's too severely under schooled and floyd would stop him.

that fight is a star seller. But I think mosely makes for a better fight. and would do more for the winner in terms of legacy than either of them destroying manny. Manny has never seen the likes of a slick boxer like floyd. And has never felt the power of a boxer/puncher like shane either one of them stops him. Shane early, floyd late.

And personally i think hatton will beat him.

[Taeth]

When combining both the Hatton and ODLH fight together he made around 50 million dollars before taxes, take half that away its 25 million. I'm not sure he spent all that. He definitely could have, but people like that the IRS doesn't come after over night, he is still living the high life, and I do no doubt he is coming back, but its against the most challenging opponent out there.

Manny Pacquiao

A guy who pretty much matches Floyd in speed, is a southpaw(the only punch that really lands on Floyd is the left cross), he is an offensive whirlwind. And Manny is more dynamic than Mosley, he has the ability to land hard shots, to really punish even bigger men. When Mosley moved up his combinations dissapeared, all the boxing skill he showed at LW almost deteriorated because his boxing skill relies on him being the bigger man, and the fact that everyone at LW at the time were sitting ducks that Corrales, Castillo, Casamayor or Mayweather would have cleared out with no problem.

Manny is way higher up on the ATG list, he simply better than Mosley, and is the guy who matches up most equally with Floyd.

[JonesJrMayweather]

When combining both the Hatton and ODLH fight together he made around 50 million dollars before taxes, take half that away its 25 million. I'm not sure he spent all that. He definitely could have, but people like that the IRS doesn't come after over night, he is still living the high life, and I do no doubt he is coming back, but its against the most challenging opponent out there.

Manny Pacquiao

A guy who pretty much matches Floyd in speed, is a southpaw(the only punch that really lands on Floyd is the left cross), he is an offensive whirlwind. And Manny is more dynamic than Mosley, he has the ability to land hard shots, to really punish even bigger men. When Mosley moved up his combinations dissapeared, all the boxing skill he showed at LW almost deteriorated because his boxing skill relies on him being the bigger man, and the fact that everyone at LW at the time were sitting ducks that Corrales, Castillo, Casamayor or Mayweather would have cleared out with no problem.

Manny is way higher up on the ATG list, he simply better than Mosley, and is the guy who matches up most equally with Floyd.

manny is not higher than shane on the ATG list that's crack smoking...and manny doesn't pose more of a threat than shane...manny is not as schooled as shane. hell freddie roach said after Raheem beat morrales that they weren't putting manny anywhere near Raheem because he was too slick. Even manny's own manager says that floyd is too much for him in term of skill. Shane has been in the gym since he was 8. just as much skill as floyd but tougher and more of a fighter/boxer floyd is a boxer.

The bullshit reasoning for PBF fighting manny if it does happen will be because of money nothing else. Floyd will stop manny, who had one fight against Oscar at 147, now he's back at 140 with hatton. and after hatton beats him. He will go back to 135.

Floyd needs to fight shane. it makes no sense if he doesn't. And with Mosely being apart of golden boy all floyd has to say is "i want shane now"

and they'll be fighting. I've heard shane say i want to fight pbf. not once have i heard pbf say he wants to fight shane. I have heard ellerbe say they offered but that's just ellerbe a floyd "yes man"

[Taeth]

When combining both the Hatton and ODLH fight together he made around 50 million dollars before taxes, take half that away its 25 million. I'm not sure he spent all that. He definitely could have, but people like that the IRS doesn't come after over night, he is still living the high life, and I do no doubt he is coming back, but its against the most challenging opponent out there.

Manny Pacquiao

A guy who pretty much matches Floyd in speed, is a southpaw(the only punch that really lands on Floyd is the left cross), he is an offensive whirlwind. And Manny is more dynamic than Mosley, he has the ability to land hard shots, to really punish even bigger men. When Mosley moved up his combinations dissapeared, all the boxing skill he showed at LW almost deteriorated because his boxing skill relies on him being the bigger man, and the fact that everyone at LW at the time were sitting ducks that Corrales, Castillo, Casamayor or Mayweather would have cleared out with no problem.

Manny is way higher up on the ATG list, he simply better than Mosley, and is the guy who matches up most equally with Floyd.

manny is not higher than shane on the ATG list that's crack smoking...and manny doesn't pose more of a threat than shane...manny is not as schooled as shane. hell freddie roach said after Raheem beat morrales that they weren't putting manny anywhere near Raheem because he was too slick. Even manny's own manager says that floyd is too much for him in term of skill. Shane has been in the gym since he was 8. just as much skill as floyd but tougher and more of a fighter/boxer floyd is a boxer.

The bullshit reasoning for PBF fighting manny if it does happen will be because of money nothing else. Floyd will stop manny, who had one fight against Oscar at 147, now he's back at 140 with hatton. and after hatton beats him. He will go back to 135.

Floyd needs to fight shane. it makes no sense if he doesn't. And with Mosely being apart of golden boy all floyd has to say is "i want shane now"

and they'll be fighting. I've heard shane say i want to fight pbf. not once have i heard pbf say he wants to fight shane. I have heard ellerbe say they offered but that's just ellerbe a floyd "yes man"

Find me where Freddie said that Raheem was too slick for Manny? Show me that. Your are so full of shit. Stop with this alleged hear say BS. You have no clue what you are talking about

Who are Mosley's big wins? 1 fight with Oscar he won clearly, the other fight most people felt Oscar won. Vargas way after his prime after Wright, Trinidad, and ODLH all had their way with him many years earlier. Mayorga who both Trinidad and OScar beat in a more devastating and quicker fashion, and now Margarito who was vastly overrated to begin with.

Mosley is agreat fighter, but he is no Pacquiao, he's not as quick, he doesn't move as well, he can't punch at any moment, he doesn't throw combinations as well, and he's just as easy to hit.

[JT Rock]

never said he was broke, and he only offered 100k for for the return of 5 mil in jewelry...

and if you lose 5 in jewelry plus 6 to the feds...thats almost half of the money he won against delahoya

Something to keep in mind
If you owe 6 million in taxes,that means you had a significantly higher amount in income to be taxed in that fiscal year.
He made more off the interest and investment off that money,then the IRS fine

Money Woes Continue To Press Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Boxing News

floyd needs money...fuck what youre saying. Anybody who spends money like that, has a gambling problem, poor investment in filthy rich records which still hasnt sold a record, constantly lies about how much he's worth said he got 20mill for wwe when it was just 2mil. Floyd's money mayweather bullshit seems to have gotten into his head more than anyone else.

he'll be back for the money, which mean he'll be fighting the little non threatening winner of pac v hatton..and not shane the undisputed WW champ.

Are you crazy and delusional.... Floyd offered to fight Shane years ago and Shane didnt want anypart of him, now all of a sudden Floyd is afraid of fighting Mosley?