I hate computers

[Salty]

Ok right now I am hating computers, almost a year ago I bought my first laptop and wanted to be able to access the internet at the same time as my dad while he was on his computer. So the logical option was to buy a router, which I did and after a bit of aggravation I was able to set up and get working. Now about a week ago my dad informs me that his internet wouldn't connect, so i'm guessing after he muddled with the settings he gave up and plugged the internet directly into the computer, leaving me without the net access. So I have spent about 2 hours each night trying everything to get this bastard connected again with no luck. My computer connects fine but his is being an absolute pain in the ass, I think because it is a mac. I even had the network thing on his computer saying it was connected and had access to the internet but when I opened firefox it wouldn't load anything. I'm just about ready to chuck his computer out the window as im getting that frustrated. Right now I hate computers and wonder why can't things just be easy with them?

Edit: Does anyone know a good computer help site?

[Von Milash]

Nope. sorry. But network shit is far harder than people think it is. you might want to bite the bullet and bring in a computer dork to have a look at it. I have a router... sitting in a box for almost two years. Never could get it working right.

[Youngblood]

You likely have to assign it an IP...like say if your dads IP is 23.222212 then yours should automatically be 23.222212.1 and any others a slight variation of it. I think you can also assign it a distinct IP also.

If you can find the disc/program for the router, and for the extention which is your computer and rerun it, that may help.

Not sure on a good site tho...i'd just google and have a look.

[CGM]

So now your Windows computer is connectng to the router and getting on to the net no problem. Unless you had to actually type an IP address into your computer, it means that the router is assigning an ip address to your computer. If you go to a command prompt and type ipconfig, you will proobably see an ip address like 192.168.xxx.xxx

Your Dad's MAC is probably not being assigned an IP addrss by the router because it is configured to get an IP addrsss from the ISP. If you are using ADSL, which is high speed through the phone lines, then that is not the same as TCP/IP. Your Dad's Mac probably needs a configuration change to work with DHCP, which is a form of TCP/IP. All this is assuming your Dad's MAC is now plugged back into the router.

[Doot]

right click on his connection and goto repair, it will release and renew your IP address.

works for me when my router stops working for no reason.
thats for pc though I dont know if mac will have the same option

[Salty]

So now your Windows computer is connectng to the router and getting on to the net no problem. Unless you had to actually type an IP address into your computer, it means that the router is assigning an ip address to your computer. If you go to a command prompt and type ipconfig, you will proobably see an ip address like 192.168.xxx.xxx

Your Dad's MAC is probably not being assigned an IP addrss by the router because it is configured to get an IP addrsss from the ISP. If you are using ADSL, which is high speed through the phone lines, then that is not the same as TCP/IP. Your Dad's Mac probably needs a configuration change to work with DHCP, which is a form of TCP/IP. All this is assuming your Dad's MAC is now plugged back into the router.

Yep my computer gets an IP fine, the shitty mac won't though. The only way I can get it to connect is to manualy assign the DHCP, putting in the IP, subnet mask and router. I also manually assigned the same IP to the computers MAC on the routers homepage, it says its connected to the net but nothing will load, ping, etc. It's just giving me to shits, but hey maybe it'll keep me off the net for a while.

[Doot]

try plugging it into a different port on the router

[CGM]

So now your Windows computer is connectng to the router and getting on to the net no problem. Unless you had to actually type an IP address into your computer, it means that the router is assigning an ip address to your computer. If you go to a command prompt and type ipconfig, you will proobably see an ip address like 192.168.xxx.xxx

Your Dad's MAC is probably not being assigned an IP addrss by the router because it is configured to get an IP addrsss from the ISP. If you are using ADSL, which is high speed through the phone lines, then that is not the same as TCP/IP. Your Dad's Mac probably needs a configuration change to work with DHCP, which is a form of TCP/IP. All this is assuming your Dad's MAC is now plugged back into the router.

Yep my computer gets an IP fine, the shitty mac won't though. The only way I can get it to connect is to manualy assign the DHCP, putting in the IP, subnet mask and router. I also manually assigned the same IP to the computers MAC on the routers homepage, it says its connected to the net but nothing will load, ping, etc. It's just giving me to shits, but hey maybe it'll keep me off the net for a while.

Are you able to ping the router, or your own computer, from your Dad's computer?

[Salty]

So now your Windows computer is connectng to the router and getting on to the net no problem. Unless you had to actually type an IP address into your computer, it means that the router is assigning an ip address to your computer. If you go to a command prompt and type ipconfig, you will proobably see an ip address like 192.168.xxx.xxx

Your Dad's MAC is probably not being assigned an IP addrss by the router because it is configured to get an IP addrsss from the ISP. If you are using ADSL, which is high speed through the phone lines, then that is not the same as TCP/IP. Your Dad's Mac probably needs a configuration change to work with DHCP, which is a form of TCP/IP. All this is assuming your Dad's MAC is now plugged back into the router.

Yep my computer gets an IP fine, the shitty mac won't though. The only way I can get it to connect is to manualy assign the DHCP, putting in the IP, subnet mask and router. I also manually assigned the same IP to the computers MAC on the routers homepage, it says its connected to the net but nothing will load, ping, etc. It's just giving me to shits, but hey maybe it'll keep me off the net for a while.

Are you able to ping the router, or your own computer, from your Dad's computer?

No i can't even if it says it's connected

[CGM]

OK, well I do know about TCP/IP, but not a lot about MACs. We can try a bit more if you like.

1. I assume that when both computers are plugged into the router, that your PC can access the internet just fine. Can you ping your Dad's Mac?

2. I assume when your Dad's Mac is plugged into the router, and your PC is not plugged in, that your Dad's Mac still can't ping the router.

3.Earlier you mentioned manually assigning DHCP and subnet mask to your Dad's Mac. This is not an accurate statement. DHCP means that the router assigns the IP address and subnet mask and default gateway to the computer. Usually when DHCP is selected in a computer, then the config fields for IP and subnet mask are greyed out.

It sounds like you are incorrectly configuring either the IP address or the subnet mask of your Dad's Mac.

3. Assuming we are OK on1 2, and 3, if you don't mind, do an ipconfig on your PC and tell me what internal IP address, subnet mask, and default gateway is being assigned to it by the router. Then tell me the same three things you have configured into your Dad's Mac. Of course, default gateway is just the internal IP address of the router. Usually the internal IP addresses for these setups start with 192.168.xxx.xxx, and the subnet masks is 255.255.255.0.

[Dizaster]

One thing i've done when it says that my computer is connected but the browser won't work is - If you have internet explorer, even if you don't use it, you load it up and try to get a website working. It will then come up with a message saying that it can't load the website and will give you some options. there is one that either says "diagnose" or "repair" or something like that.. You choose that and it will run through a bunch of things... 95% of the time it's gotten me a new IP address and will work out what the issues is and fix it..

Not sure if it will help you, but it's one option to try if you have IE.