Well to be fair to Larry Holmes he was pretty green when he was sparing with Ali not like he was prime or anything also i never heard the man brag about beating up on Ali i watch the fight he was taking it easy on the guy i dont get what people hate about Holmes so much many fighters that were less in the talent department have gave Ali problems but we while never know how the fight would of gone because they never fought when both were in prime so kinda up in the air.