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    Default Re: Are the Duke, Holyfield, The "Beast," Bowe, etc hurting boxing's image?

    I dont think they are directly responsible for Boxings over all image at this point.Every generation has its line of guys hanging on buy their finger tips...refusing to get the message,distractions,& media termites pointing to the worst scenarios.As long as their name remains,often existing on only memories sadly, scrupulous and oppurtunistic promoters will look to make a buck off them....and the fans continue to doll out the dollars,nothing will change.We as fans just need to keep it all in prespective.....and when we see talk about "Tysons coming back.....he has a chance" Show that silly shite the door!MMA has Nattas on Boxing,it wishes it had our freakshows

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    Default Re: Are the Duke, Holyfield, The "Beast," Bowe, etc hurting boxing's image?

    Boxing is bigger (and makes more money) than MMA so of course we'll have more "cling-ons"

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    After Holyfield's supposed loss to Valuev, the only things he is hurting in boxing is the WBA's lousy championship image and showing how crooked their judges are. So if this leads to the WBA's eventual demise, then Holyfield is a good thing and should lobby for a rematch.
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    Default Re: Are the Duke, Holyfield, The "Beast," Bowe, etc hurting boxing's image?

    They arent hurting and they arent helping,its like saying are the Who and the Stones touring again hurting rock n roll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    They arent hurting and they arent helping,its like saying are the Who and the Stones touring again hurting rock n roll
    ....I wouldn't compare any of those guys to The Who or The Stones. Those groups are LEGENDS at best the only legend out of Morrison, Bowe, and Holyfield is Holyfield

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    Default Re: Are the Duke, Holyfield, The "Beast," Bowe, etc hurting boxing's image?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    They arent hurting and they arent helping,its like saying are the Who and the Stones touring again hurting rock n roll
    ....I wouldn't compare any of those guys to The Who or The Stones. Those groups are LEGENDS at best the only legend out of Morrison, Bowe, and Holyfield is Holyfield
    Very true Lyle although some may argue Bowe is. For me Bowe didn't do enough to be in that category.

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    Bowe was a guy who didn't get (or take) shots at the best of his era. Look at Bowe's record and you won't see: Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Shannon Briggs, Michael Moorer, Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrison, Donovan Rudduck, or Frank Bruno.

    I think Riddick would have been a great if he fought(and beat) Mike Tyson, IMO he had all the tools to beat Tyson too.

    The 1990's heavyweight division really pisses me off because there is very little binding the great fighters of that era together. In the 1970's Ali, Frazier, Foreman, and others are bound together because they all fought each other. Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, and Evander Holyfield fought each other but after that you don't have those guys sharing many opponents and it's a shame because with guys like: Bowe, Rudduck, Morrison, Moorer, etc didn't fight all three of those guys. I really wish these fights had happened....

    Mike Tyson: Michael Moorer, Riddick Bowe, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer, old George Foreman, Hasim Rahman, David Tua

    Lennox Lewis: Riddick Bowe (all Bowe's fault that didn't happen), Michael Moorer...and I guess that's about it

    Evander Holyfield: Andrew Golota, Tommy Morrison, David Tua

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    Default Re: Are the Duke, Holyfield, The "Beast," Bowe, etc hurting boxing's image?

    You will always get the types who just will not let it go, or else are doing it primarily for financial reasons. I dont think it hurts boxing image so long as quality matchups are being made elsewhere.

    The thing that hurts boxing most IMO are the god awful judicial decisions we have to encounter all too often after a big fight.

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