Weight lifting in training?

[wesrman]

A well designed weight training program for boxing is not going to make you slow and tense.

QFT.

Bruce Lee lifted weights and it didnt slow him down one bit.

[blegit]

A lot of coaches try to persuade against mixing lifting weights with boxing. I think they are just old fashion and/or ignorant. I lifted weights on and off throughout my career and could tell when I was at my best was when I lifted weights. I always felt strong when I was lifting and my handspeed was at least the same. Always do stretches and read up on it to customize your workouts for boxing. Weightlifting is now a part of a high percentage of boxers. You would do yourself justice if you got with the program. Do not let your opponent have an advantage. I actually was lifting quite hard during my training before my last Golden Gloves and the weekend before I won the state bench press championships and broke the record. I won Golden Gloves also. For awhile I was the only weightlifter in my gym but now most of us lift weights. Constantly gauge your weight and I wouldn't recommend taking anything more than a multivitamin and maybe a light protein shake in place of meals if you are cutting weight. Leave creatine and the other mass making supplements alone.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I think the fear of weights comes from bodybuilding. Lots of routines in magazines are focused on building mass. BB is a sport of asthetics.

- Good post Rocky.

I think power moves, low reps/high weight (even bodyweight) will compliment training. The problem becomes fitting all this work in your schedule whilst getting enough recovery.

There's plenty of info on plyometrics....& these exercises did/do exist in 'old' routines. Sprinting is explosive, so are burpees, so is throwing a medicine ball. It's just it all came under the heading of conditioning.

I would stay away from high rep/low weight for endurance simply because that is what you are doing when you box/spar/hit the bag/pads. I don't think you'd need an extra workout focused on that.

[Scrap]

Spoke of this before, Feel is misunderstood. There are now ways to implement, touch Plyos in certain positions can give Turbo mechcanics to the Body its the way forward.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Spoke of this before, Feel is misunderstood. There are now ways to implement, touch Plyos in certain positions can give Turbo mechcanics to the Body its the way forward.

I especially like cryptic posts He's blinding us with science again.

[Scrap]

Theres certain things Im not putting up on here . When I get clearance I will. If you want to take the invite, do. Confientualatly papers will have to be signed.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

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[Rocky Balboa]

Thanks guys

I think the fear of weights comes from bodybuilding.

Definitely, when the mention of weightlifting comes up, people immediately think of bodybuilding. Look at the mid-class Olympic weight-lifters. Some pretty small guys yet they are beastly strong. They lift huge weights yet are thin (often), and very fast and explosive. They, like us boxers, don't want mass (except heavyweights) as that would push them up in the weight class where there are naturally stronger guys. 8-15 rep range is where bodybuilders work and where we want to stay out.

I think power moves, low reps/high weight (even bodyweight) will compliment training.

I actually do only bodyweight. You can do low reps/high weight easily with bodyweight. One-arm push-ups, one-leg squats/pistols, handstand push-ups, even one-arm chin-ups and one-arm dips. There is no limit to bodyweight exercises.

The problem becomes fitting all this work in your schedule whilst getting enough recovery.

This is a big issue. There is a solution though: Active recovery. Through active recovery I can be 100% the next day, fresh and ready to workout again without worrying about over training.

Active Recovery - active means of aiding your body to recover, both the muscular and the nervous system.

One of the best ways is constant bath/shower. Turn it on hot for 10-30 seconds then to cold for same amount of time. Do this 5-10 times after a workout. You will be surprised how much it will help you in recovering.

Another thing (one that can't be overlooked) is building your workout capacity. Slowly add more things, closer together so that your body adjusts to quicker recovery.

Bodybuilding recommends hitting till you can't lift no more. There are exhaustion principles so that at the end of the workout, the bodybuilder is bench pressing 50 pounds for 10 reps when he can bench a 350 lb max. He is burnt totally out. He will only do his chest next week.

We boxers CAN'T do that. We need to be fresh to practice our skills in the ring. Weightlifting is supposed to aid our "game" (for lack of better word) not harm it. So at the end of our workouts (NO failure, NO burnout) we can use active restoration so that we are 100% next day ready to spar, work the bags, pads, etc.

I have touched on active restoration but here are two good links:
http://www.athleticscoaching.ca/User...20Stronger.pdf

http://www.athleticscoaching.ca/User...20Capacity.pdf

Now when to hit the weights is another matter. And that really depends on your schedule; just don't do it before skill training, EVER!