Toney: I'll KO Hopkins

[SweetPea]

Also, as bad as Toney looked against Oquendo, I'd pick Hopkins to beat him even if the fight were at heavyweight and Toney weighed 225 or 230.

[JT Rock]

agreed this fight is 10 years late, I always felt Toney could handle Hopkins just fine.... I doubt James could lose the weight, but if he did it wouldnt be as bad as Byrd or Jones, since he is more fat than muscle and his style isint really based off athleticism or unreal reflexes.

Shame it wont happen

[Wayne]

I'd pick Toney if he could get down to that weight for the simple fact that he's used to being bigger and he'd finally have enough crack in his punches to put a dent in somebody. But then again, Tarver had pretty much the same idea.

I have no doubt that if Toney really signed for the fight that he could make the weight. It's a matter of will with him and I don't think he would sign if he didn't have the ability to stay away from the refrigerator. That being said, Toney looks like he's thinking about a cheese burger at the end of every fight so I doubt he'll fight as anything else other than HW.

[holmcall]

The only thing he will KO is the nearest Chinese Buffet. He has become a delusional slob who needs to STFU.

[Pugilistic]

Hopkins would easily beat Toney at this stage.

Toney is past it.

There is no way Toney can make 185 anyway.

[C-Lo]

I'd pick Toney if he could get down to that weight for the simple fact that he's used to being bigger and he'd finally have enough crack in his punches to put a dent in somebody. But then again, Tarver had pretty much the same idea.

I have no doubt that if Toney really signed for the fight that he could make the weight. It's a matter of will with him and I don't think he would sign if he didn't have the ability to stay away from the refrigerator. That being said, Toney looks like he's thinking about a cheese burger at the end of every fight so I doubt he'll fight as anything else other than HW.

Even if the fight was signed, I think Toney has ZERO will power to drop weight! He loves food too much and I'm not saying that in a joking manner. I doubt he has the discipline regardless of what was offerred to him to make the fight...

The only thing he will KO is the nearest Chinese Buffet. He has become a delusional slob who needs to STFU.

OH SNAP! That was funny!

[HattonTheHammer]

The only possible chance you could give james toney is to win by doing something that Roy Jones, Joe Calzaghe, jermain taylor, winky wright, kelly pavlik, oscar de la hoya, felix trinidad etc etc all couldnt do and actually stop hopkins.

Otherwise even at 185 toney will still be a very straight forward fighter that hopkins will simply run rings around and take a unanimous points decision or even a late stoppage.

[Gandalf]

The only possible chance you could give james toney is to win by doing something that Roy Jones, Joe Calzaghe, jermain taylor, winky wright, kelly pavlik, oscar de la hoya, felix trinidad etc etc all couldnt do and actually stop hopkins.

Otherwise even at 185 toney will still be a very straight forward fighter that hopkins will simply run rings around and take a unanimous points decision or even a late stoppage.

I dont think the fight can physically happen at 185 pounds. Not within this year anyway. Toney is probably floating around 250 pounds as we speak. I just think its utterly bizarre to be talking about Hopkins. It really makes me think that Toney is looking to talk his way into the only possible payday he can make after his recent crappy showings.

[HattonTheHammer]

The only possible chance you could give james toney is to win by doing something that Roy Jones, Joe Calzaghe, jermain taylor, winky wright, kelly pavlik, oscar de la hoya, felix trinidad etc etc all couldnt do and actually stop hopkins.

Otherwise even at 185 toney will still be a very straight forward fighter that hopkins will simply run rings around and take a unanimous points decision or even a late stoppage.

I dont think the fight can physically happen at 185 pounds. Not within this year anyway. Toney is probably floating around 250 pounds as we speak. I just think its utterly bizarre to be talking about Hopkins. It really makes me think that Toney is looking to talk his way into the only possible payday he can make after his recent crappy showings.

probably true

it would beg the question why he is shouting his mouth off about a 175pound ring master when he looked completely past it against the likes of oquendo

[JT Rock]

Otherwise even at 185 toney will still be a very straight forward fighter that hopkins will simply run rings around and take a unanimous points decision or even a late stoppage.

On the contrary Toney is a slick counterpuncher, he is not Pavlik nor will he come in without a plan b

[Gandalf]

Otherwise even at 185 toney will still be a very straight forward fighter that hopkins will simply run rings around and take a unanimous points decision or even a late stoppage.

On the contrary Toney is a slick counterpuncher, he is not Pavlik nor will he come in without a plan b

He is also 40 years of age, and would be losing over 20kg's in weight to face Hopkins. Hopkins is older, but always in shape. Im a long time Toney fan, but the whole proposition sounds absurd.

[JonnyFolds]

The only possible chance you could give james toney is to win by doing something that Roy Jones, Joe Calzaghe, jermain taylor, winky wright, kelly pavlik, oscar de la hoya, felix trinidad etc etc all couldnt do and actually stop hopkins.

Otherwise even at 185 toney will still be a very straight forward fighter that hopkins will simply run rings around and take a unanimous points decision or even a late stoppage.

Toney's never been stopped... although I haven't seen him rocked like he was against Oquendo a couple times. That was sorely disappointing to watch. ... and to think I call myself a Toney fan...

It's pathetic how fat he let himself get. He was whooping Rahman's ass though in that fight before last! So I wouldn't go as far as to say he hasn't looked good in forever...

Granted that was only 3rnds, and it is Rahman we are talking about

[Wayne]

"...by Hopkins I mean 14 hamburgers and by KO I mean eat."

[BoomBoom]

I always wanted to see these guys fight, but the timing never seemed quite right. Its still not imo. Toney probably could get down 185 and he would. The payday would motivate him. But, at 40 I dont think that its a smart thing to do, could turn out like Chris Byrd. Hopkins would likely be more comfortable at that weight, even though hes never fought there before.

[The Fightfan]

The first thing I thought when I seen this was liposuction. There is no way in hell this man will make 185 lbs. F**K Toney.