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    Going with something totally different Ricardo Lopez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Going with something totally different Ricardo Lopez.

    ill be honest i dont no much about him.i no i should tho. i seen clips on youtube.he looks great. can anyone give me the low down of his career

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    If anyone doesn't say Ricardo Lopez they don't know about boxing, he is easily the best technical fighter of all time. With arguably the best all round game in boxing history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    If anyone doesn't say Ricardo Lopez they don't know about boxing, he is easily the best technical fighter of all time. With arguably the best all round game in boxing history.
    Sorry, gonna have to take that title then, because I'd have to suggest the pretty boy Floyd Mayweather. Far as I'm concerned he ticks all the boxes for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    If anyone doesn't say Ricardo Lopez they don't know about boxing, he is easily the best technical fighter of all time. With arguably the best all round game in boxing history.
    Sorry, gonna have to take that title then, because I'd have to suggest the pretty boy Floyd Mayweather. Far as I'm concerned he ticks all the boxes for me.
    He isn't full retired yet but if he does retire yes he has a very good case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    If anyone doesn't say Ricardo Lopez they don't know about boxing, he is easily the best technical fighter of all time. With arguably the best all round game in boxing history.
    Sorry, gonna have to take that title then, because I'd have to suggest the pretty boy Floyd Mayweather. Far as I'm concerned he ticks all the boxes for me.
    Good answer Rhun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    If anyone doesn't say Ricardo Lopez they don't know about boxing, he is easily the best technical fighter of all time. With arguably the best all round game in boxing history.
    Sorry, gonna have to take that title then, because I'd have to suggest the pretty boy Floyd Mayweather. Far as I'm concerned he ticks all the boxes for me.
    Good answer Rhun
    We don't know if he is retired yet thats why i didn't mention him. He's only been retired since 2008 its a bit early to consider him a proper "retired fighter"

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    Default Re: retiring undefeated

    i would say ricardo lopez (never even seen him fight but i am scared to say calzaghe ha ha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    We don't know if he is retired yet thats why i didn't mention him. He's only been retired since 2008 its a bit early to consider him a proper "retired fighter"
    Fair enough I suppose, but the same can be said about Calzaghe who inspired this thread. If the big money comes a-calling, I reckon both will come out of retirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    If anyone doesn't say Ricardo Lopez they don't know about boxing, he is easily the best technical fighter of all time. With arguably the best all round game in boxing history.
    yeah i dont no much about the dude. i first started boxing when i was 14. but i only started watchin boxing from the hatton tyzsu fight onwards.forgive me my saddo brothers. we all got 2 start somewhere right

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    One thing that separates Lopez & Mayweather from Calzaghe for me is that when they had a debatable decision or draw (Castillo & Alvarez) they made sure they had a rematch with that opponent & put in a performance that left no room for doubt. Calzaghe can say he doesn't do rematches but then why did he fight Mario Veit twice. I think the fact that he didn't have rematches with Reid & Hopkins weighs against him heavily in this respect

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    One thing that separates Lopez & Mayweather from Calzaghe for me is that when they had a debatable decision or draw (Castillo & Alvarez) they made sure they had a rematch with that opponent & put in a performance that left no room for doubt. Calzaghe can say he doesn't do rematches but then why did he fight Mario Veit twice. I think the fact that he didn't have rematches with Reid & Hopkins weighs against him heavily in this respect
    Calzaghe v Hopkins was just plain ugly....and would you have traded a rematch for the destruction of Pavlik by the executioner. As for Robin Reid, by the time Calzaghe would have considered the rematch, he'd lost a WBU title shot and was fighting for minority tiles and was out of the real world reckoning, fighting on the secondary circuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    One thing that separates Lopez & Mayweather from Calzaghe for me is that when they had a debatable decision or draw (Castillo & Alvarez) they made sure they had a rematch with that opponent & put in a performance that left no room for doubt. Calzaghe can say he doesn't do rematches but then why did he fight Mario Veit twice. I think the fact that he didn't have rematches with Reid & Hopkins weighs against him heavily in this respect
    Calzaghe v Hopkins was just plain ugly....and would you have traded a rematch for the destruction of Pavlik by the executioner. As for Robin Reid, by the time Calzaghe would have considered the rematch, he'd lost a WBU title shot and was fighting for minority tiles and was out of the real world reckoning, fighting on the secondary circuit.
    It was more Calzaghe's attitude afterwards of why should I give him a rematch that pissed me off, & whilst I enjoyed B-Hop's destruction of Pavlik, I would've liked to see em do it again because I thought Hopkins won the first match & I think it would've been a fitting send-off for the both of em if they were to fight 1 more time. Also I don't think there is an excuse for him not fighting Reid again (I do think he Joe just edged the fight), he still would've been better than some of the jokes the Joe was fighting. Don't get me wrong I think Joe is a great champ, but he's just short of Mayweather & Lopez' level because of that & also because I don't think he is as talented a boxer as either of them technically. Similar to how I wouldn't even class Marciano anywhere near Joe's level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    One thing that separates Lopez & Mayweather from Calzaghe for me is that when they had a debatable decision or draw (Castillo & Alvarez) they made sure they had a rematch with that opponent & put in a performance that left no room for doubt. Calzaghe can say he doesn't do rematches but then why did he fight Mario Veit twice. I think the fact that he didn't have rematches with Reid & Hopkins weighs against him heavily in this respect
    Reid turned down the rematch.

    And there's no way Hopkins would travel to Britain for Calzaghe. Did you read his ignorant comments after their fight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    One thing that separates Lopez & Mayweather from Calzaghe for me is that when they had a debatable decision or draw (Castillo & Alvarez) they made sure they had a rematch with that opponent & put in a performance that left no room for doubt. Calzaghe can say he doesn't do rematches but then why did he fight Mario Veit twice. I think the fact that he didn't have rematches with Reid & Hopkins weighs against him heavily in this respect
    Reid turned down the rematch.

    And there's no way Hopkins would travel to Britain for Calzaghe. Did you read his ignorant comments after their fight?
    The offer to Reid was made purposely low to make sure Reid turned it down. And it came a year after there first fight. Reid wanted and deserved a rematch right away. Calzaghe never really wanted Reid again. I'm sure you know it.

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