Geez these f'ers are crazy.

[Kev]

No, they ARE more useless than all other religions combined. Christians, hindus, buddhists, etc, don't go around killing those who don't share the same views and beliefs.

Really?
Tell that to the victims families of the Atlanta bombing,or the Chicago Shootings,or the Jewish Day Care shootings
And thats just off the top of my head in America

None of those killings were sanctioned and organised by the US governement and the head of the Christian churches in the US though Monkey and THAT'S the difference.

There are nutters in every religion sure, but in Islam the nutters also rule those countries.

[Trainer Monkey]

No, they ARE more useless than all other religions combined. Christians, hindus, buddhists, etc, don't go around killing those who don't share the same views and beliefs.

Really?
Tell that to the victims families of the Atlanta bombing,or the Chicago Shootings,or the Jewish Day Care shootings
And thats just off the top of my head in America

None of those killings were sanctioned and organised by the US governement and the head of the Christian churches in the US though Monkey and THAT'S the difference.

There are nutters in every religion sure, but in Islam the nutters also rule those countries.

We're just getting over that here,thank you,because Mr Crusade has finally gotten tossed.
Replaced by another Christian in point of fact,but a slightly less nuts one.
Quick,name a non-Christian American President

[Kev]

Really?
Tell that to the victims families of the Atlanta bombing,or the Chicago Shootings,or the Jewish Day Care shootings
And thats just off the top of my head in America

None of those killings were sanctioned and organised by the US governement and the head of the Christian churches in the US though Monkey and THAT'S the difference.

There are nutters in every religion sure, but in Islam the nutters also rule those countries.

We're just getting over that here,thank you,because Mr Crusade has finally gotten tossed.
Replaced by another Christian in point of fact,but a slightly less nuts one.
Quick,name a non-Christian American President

How many US citizens did George Bush sentence to death because they converted to Islam or made a translation of the Bible into anoter language?

You seriously cannot even compare the two. What about that British woman school teacher late last year who was sentenced to 40 lashes becuase she named a school teddy bear Muhammad?

You are defending an undefendable point the differences between Christian tolerance (in fact any religion) and Islamic tolerance is night and day.

[Trainer Monkey]

None of those killings were sanctioned and organised by the US governement and the head of the Christian churches in the US though Monkey and THAT'S the difference.

There are nutters in every religion sure, but in Islam the nutters also rule those countries.

We're just getting over that here,thank you,because Mr Crusade has finally gotten tossed.
Replaced by another Christian in point of fact,but a slightly less nuts one.
Quick,name a non-Christian American President

How many US citizens did George Bush sentence to death because they converted to Islam or made a translation of the Bible into anoter language?

You seriously cannot even compare the two. What about that British woman school teacher late last year who was sentenced to 40 lashes becuase she named a school teddy bear Muhammad?

You are defending an undefendable point the differences between Christian tolerance (in fact any religion) and Islamic tolerance is night and day.

Really,you mean like forcing children to handle poisonous snakes?
Because thats quite common in the south
All based on one obscure tract in the Bible,if your morally righteous the logic goes,god will protect you,if you get bit,something was wrong with you.
Or do you mean forcing women to wear face covering hoods,and allways keep your eyes downcast like the Amish do?
Maybe the multiple wives of the Mormons upset you

[Kev]

We're just getting over that here,thank you,because Mr Crusade has finally gotten tossed.
Replaced by another Christian in point of fact,but a slightly less nuts one.
Quick,name a non-Christian American President

How many US citizens did George Bush sentence to death because they converted to Islam or made a translation of the Bible into anoter language?

You seriously cannot even compare the two. What about that British woman school teacher late last year who was sentenced to 40 lashes becuase she named a school teddy bear Muhammad?

You are defending an undefendable point the differences between Christian tolerance (in fact any religion) and Islamic tolerance is night and day.

Really,you mean like forcing children to handle poisonous snakes?
Because thats quite common in the south
All based on one obscure tract in the Bible,if your morally righteous the logic goes,god will protect you,if you get bit,something was wrong with you.
Or do you mean forcing women to wear face covering hoods,and allways keep your eyes downcast like the Amish do?
Maybe the multiple wives of the Mormons upset you

Well first off the carpet bombing of a country might be evil but its nothing to do with religion whatseover. Bush didn't go to war for Christ so why is that even relevent? All the churces were opposed to the war as I recall.

As for your other frankly ridiculous comments since when has the compulsary handling of deadly snakes been an official part of US law?

And since when have the Amish killed and imprisoned their fellow Americans for not following the Amish traditions?

Actually your stupid examples in fact only go to highlight how America is MORE tolerent becuase these fringe minority groups are allowed to carry out their lives and live their religious beliefs unmolested by the American government.

If the Amish moved into Iran they would all be rounded up, tortured, stoned and then killed for their beliefs which differed from the Quran.

How can you not see the sheer insanity of what you are saying

[Trainer Monkey]

How many US citizens did George Bush sentence to death because they converted to Islam or made a translation of the Bible into anoter language?

You seriously cannot even compare the two. What about that British woman school teacher late last year who was sentenced to 40 lashes becuase she named a school teddy bear Muhammad?

You are defending an undefendable point the differences between Christian tolerance (in fact any religion) and Islamic tolerance is night and day.

Really,you mean like forcing children to handle poisonous snakes?
Because thats quite common in the south
All based on one obscure tract in the Bible,if your morally righteous the logic goes,god will protect you,if you get bit,something was wrong with you.
Or do you mean forcing women to wear face covering hoods,and allways keep your eyes downcast like the Amish do?
Maybe the multiple wives of the Mormons upset you

Well first off the carpet bombing of a country might be evil but its nothing to do with religion whatseover. Bush didn't go to war for Christ so why is that even relevent? All the churces were opposed to the war as I recall.

As for your other frankly ridiculous comments since when has the compulsary handling of deadly snakes been an official part of US law?

And since when have the Amish killed and imprisoned their fellow Americans for not following the Amish traditions?

Actually your stupid examples in fact only go to highlight how America is MORE tolerent becuase these fringe minority groups are allowed to carry out their lives and live their religious beliefs unmolested by the American government.

If the Amish moved into Iran they would all be rounded up, tortured, stoned and then killed for their beliefs which differed from the Quran.

How can you not see the sheer insanity of what you are saying

Funny because thats not what Bush said,what Bush said was we were "On a crusade" and that "God chose me for this job"

[Trainer Monkey]

And since I know you dont know Bilbo,if you break Amish law,your "Shunned" it means with no training on how to deal with the real world,your cut off from everyone youve ever known,forever.All your friends,all of your family,you cease to exist.
All things considered,stoning might be kinder,at least it doesnt last as long,same result,shorter duration of punishment

[El Kabong]

Funny because thats not what Bush said,what Bush said was we were "On a crusade" and that "God chose me for this job"

It's also funny that you omitted that he said "Death to the infidels" oh wait those were the muslims......also I bet you could ask a million Americans about the Crusades and none of them could name a participant or a battle that was fought in any of them.....as opposed to the culture of the Middle East where they go to their hooka bars and drink coffee and tell tales of how King Richard slaughtered hundreds at Acre.....oh Islam is just oppressed by everyone boo fucking whoo....you know even before Islam those Middle Easterners were a bellicose society but are we allowed to talk about that NOOOOOO because people like Trainer here think that WE the western world are ALWAYS the problem and never the solution and I beg you to look across history and prove me wrong....prove that we the western world picked these fights....because as far back as you can go, I can go a little farther and show that THEY have always started shit no matter their religion.

[El Kabong]

Really,you mean like forcing children to handle poisonous snakes?
Because thats quite common in the south
All based on one obscure tract in the Bible,if your morally righteous the logic goes,god will protect you,if you get bit,something was wrong with you.
Or do you mean forcing women to wear face covering hoods,and allways keep your eyes downcast like the Amish do?
Maybe the multiple wives of the Mormons upset you

Those are tiny groups of people.....and you know maybe if the Amish used buttons they wouldn't be so irrational

[Trainer Monkey]

Really,you mean like forcing children to handle poisonous snakes?
Because thats quite common in the south
All based on one obscure tract in the Bible,if your morally righteous the logic goes,god will protect you,if you get bit,something was wrong with you.
Or do you mean forcing women to wear face covering hoods,and allways keep your eyes downcast like the Amish do?
Maybe the multiple wives of the Mormons upset you

Those are tiny groups of people.....and you know maybe if the Amish used buttons they wouldn't be so irrational

Tiny groups?most of Pennsylvania and a good chunk of Ohio is owned by the Amish

[Trainer Monkey]

And my main point was,obviously missed,if your going to climb up on your high horse in a religious dispute,best to make sure there arent any slips on your climb up.
We have numerous Islaam allies,and we have some muslims that cant stand us.
Feeling is obviously mutual,judging from this thread.
And its stupid,its a minor schism from the same religion,Muslims claim their lineage from Abraham,same as Jews and Christians
And all three have done some seriously screwed up stuff in the name of god.
And until some religion actually claims the moral higher ground in deeds,all three are full of shit,but wallowing in the same level of muck.
I dont want to be doing care work in Gaza and hit by an Israeli missile(jews) going to work when a plane hits the building(muslim) or enjoying the Olympics when the bomb goes off(Christian)
Until all three religions get way better aim,and leave those of us who are out of it alone,knock it the fuck off.

[El Kabong]

Trainer would you for one fucking second just take a good hard look at W and tell me he is more evil than a culture that stones rape VICTIMS to death?!?!?!

It's not like Pat Robertson was President or Jerry Falwell or those sorry ass motherfuckers who think we got attacked on 9/11 because America doesn't try to punish homosexuals or teach them to be not gay.....even those assholes don't compare to the hardcore muslims....maybe if they had total power somewhere then yeah but right now it's not even close. America isn't even in the same freaking Universe as those crazy bastards.


And I tend to agree with the dude from Generation Kill..."All the world's problems are caused by a lack of people getting laid"

[Kev]

Trainer would you for one fucking second just take a good hard look at W and tell me he is more evil than a culture that stones rape VICTIMS to death?!?!?!

It's not like Pat Robertson was President or Jerry Falwell or those sorry ass motherfuckers who think we got attacked on 9/11 because America doesn't try to punish homosexuals or teach them to be not gay.....even those assholes don't compare to the hardcore muslims....maybe if they had total power somewhere then yeah but right now it's not even close. America isn't even in the same freaking Universe as those crazy bastards.

Someone with common sense

[Trainer Monkey]

Trainer would you for one fucking second just take a good hard look at W and tell me he is more evil than a culture that stones rape VICTIMS to death?!?!?!

It's not like Pat Robertson was President or Jerry Falwell or those sorry ass motherfuckers who think we got attacked on 9/11 because America doesn't try to punish homosexuals or teach them to be not gay.....even those assholes don't compare to the hardcore muslims....maybe if they had total power somewhere then yeah but right now it's not even close. America isn't even in the same freaking Universe as those crazy bastards.


And I tend to agree with the dude from Generation Kill..."All the world's problems are caused by a lack of people getting laid"

You mean carpet bombing an entire country of people that had never attacked us isnt evil.
What an interesting definition of evil you have

[El Kabong]

Trainer you are a fucking moron.....I'm from the South, I haven't seen ANYONE be forced to handle poisonous snakes! Sure there are crazy ass people who speak in tongues and all that crap but NEWSFLASH they aren't the majority and they don't hold control of large geo-political areas unlike our buddies the sharia law practicing muslims.

As for bombing a country....that's war, it's political and not in the name of God on our side maybe because that is blasphemy to most folks