retiring undefeated

[Fenster]

Lots of Lopez fans but nobody has justified his status.

Which all-time great fighters did he beat?

Which fighters were P4P ranked when he beat them?

What makes his WBC strawweight reign superior to Sven Ottke's IBF reign?

Mick's post here sums it up.


Something that annoys me is when people say he didn't have hall of fame competition which is why his record is not impressive.

The thing is the lower weights especially Straweight is not on the same boat as the rest of the divisions. This is mainly in the lower weights.

Here's what I mean, fighters in the lower weights get title shots sooner/earlier in their careers then they do at the higher weights.

So you'll look at a Straweights record and it'll look like 21-3 and you'll say well what a short career. But when you actually study his record you'll see he fought something like 6 title bouts won 3 lost 3 and beat some top names. That may not look to be hall of fame career compared to Hagler or Duran but again it's because the careers at the lower weights seems to be shorter. Take Petelo for example his career ended at 17-5-2 hardly a monstrous career decorated with longevity but again look closer you'll see he fought Sor Vorapin, Jamili, Rubillar, Zolile & Lopez. He defended his IBF title 5 times before loosing to Lopez. That resume to me is a hall resume again considering the way careers go at the lower weight.

I think the Hall needs to update/revise a lot of things as far as their induction requirements. You can't measure careers when the lower weights are not on the same boat it's unfair to them IMO.

Anyway back to Lopez and his opposition.
I think he fought the best opposition available to him Ohashi, Saman, Kermin, Sanchez, Alvarez, Grisby, Vorapin & Petelo.
IMO all hall material for the small guys. So to me when I read things like he never fought top/hall opposition I just can't help but think that the people want to see opponents who had long careers with titles and all that but it's not the case.

Even today I mean in recent times did Calderon have any hall of fame names? Shit I just remembered he himself fought the same Sanchez, Lopez fought yrs. ago...
He moved up in weight and fought Cazares whos the biggest name on his resume. Yutaka himself, his best win is over Chana other then that he's got top names. I think Yutakas def. hall for a Straweight...

This doesn't really answer my questions (no disrespect Mick).

It highlights that the smaller weight divisions are WEAK in numbers.

Lopez has no great legends on his resume, right?

Lopez has no P4P great wins on his resume, right?

Yet we have people on this thread claiming Lopez is not allowed to be questioned.

What other great fighters are NOT judged by their opposition?

[killersheep]

Lots of Lopez fans but nobody has justified his status.

Which all-time great fighters did he beat?

Which fighters were P4P ranked when he beat them?

What makes his WBC strawweight reign superior to Sven Ottke's IBF reign?

Mick's post here sums it up.


Something that annoys me is when people say he didn't have hall of fame competition which is why his record is not impressive.

The thing is the lower weights especially Straweight is not on the same boat as the rest of the divisions. This is mainly in the lower weights.

Here's what I mean, fighters in the lower weights get title shots sooner/earlier in their careers then they do at the higher weights.

So you'll look at a Straweights record and it'll look like 21-3 and you'll say well what a short career. But when you actually study his record you'll see he fought something like 6 title bouts won 3 lost 3 and beat some top names. That may not look to be hall of fame career compared to Hagler or Duran but again it's because the careers at the lower weights seems to be shorter. Take Petelo for example his career ended at 17-5-2 hardly a monstrous career decorated with longevity but again look closer you'll see he fought Sor Vorapin, Jamili, Rubillar, Zolile & Lopez. He defended his IBF title 5 times before loosing to Lopez. That resume to me is a hall resume again considering the way careers go at the lower weight.

I think the Hall needs to update/revise a lot of things as far as their induction requirements. You can't measure careers when the lower weights are not on the same boat it's unfair to them IMO.

Anyway back to Lopez and his opposition.
I think he fought the best opposition available to him Ohashi, Saman, Kermin, Sanchez, Alvarez, Grisby, Vorapin & Petelo.
IMO all hall material for the small guys. So to me when I read things like he never fought top/hall opposition I just can't help but think that the people want to see opponents who had long careers with titles and all that but it's not the case.

Even today I mean in recent times did Calderon have any hall of fame names? Shit I just remembered he himself fought the same Sanchez, Lopez fought yrs. ago...
He moved up in weight and fought Cazares whos the biggest name on his resume. Yutaka himself, his best win is over Chana other then that he's got top names. I think Yutakas def. hall for a Straweight...

This doesn't really answer my questions (no disrespect Mick).

It highlights that the smaller weight divisions are WEAK in numbers.

Lopez has no great legends on his resume, right?

Lopez has no P4P great wins on his resume, right?

Yet we have people on this thread claiming Lopez is not allowed to be questioned.

What other great fighters are NOT judged by their opposition?

Without a doubt the greatest undefeated boxer of all time is Mason Dixon