Scotlands Top Welter in action.....

[Wallace]

never heard of anderson.though i know hes no5 in the welter ratings where muttley is no3.im saying muttley will win.

I see your logic...it's flawed...but I see it.

[Top Dog]

I'd like to know where you saw the rankings that said Anderson is No5, and Muttley No3? If you look at the boxrec site Anderson is above Muttley

[md]

Get this. When David Barnes was a welterweight he had to practically bulk up to fight - he was fighting at his walking about weight. That's why he now campaigns at light welter. I saw him fight some Finnish no-hoper last year on the undercard of a Scott Harrison fight and he looked pretty ordinary.

Personally I'd like to see Kevin getting beat from Gary Young - a great prospect who's showing promise and has beaten some half decent ruskies.

Was he balls i have spoke to David Barnes loads of times and no him through a few manchester boxers, where the hell do you get he walks about at his fighting weight??

He is fighting at 140 now because he has moved camps and is more disiplined, are you stupid?? If he walked about at 147 before doing any training do you really think he would be fighting at 147??

He is just more focused and dedicated and with Arnie in his corner has been able to get down to 140. He has more skill than Anderson in one hand, his last performance on the Calzaghe card he looked good.

You wrote "you have spoke to him" and "you no him". Who's stupid?
Of course he's going to say he's more focused now - every boxer says that, especially if they've lost and switched trainers . If you think a boxer who trains down to 147lbs and looks very lean at that, can then shed another 7lbs without being fairly close to the welterweight limit first then you're mad without any idea of the consequences of muscle protein depletion. I just know the rumours that are circulating, which tend to be true, as I'm in the business.

[md]

Right guys, lets put things straight here.

Gary Young would get hammered against Anderson, Kevs fought far better quality guys than Young, fact! Plus Gary Young got hammered by Anderson 3 times when they were amatuers, he wouldn't get passed the mental block. Let's see Young take a step up in class and see how he handles it! Actually I hope Colin Mcneil gives him a belting when they eventually meet.
The remark about keving having no power had me in stitches, he's got a better K.O record, against better opponents, that any of the other guys mentioned. Take a break guys, have a KIT-KAT

Thanks TD for puting things straight. I hope the stitches are out now. Why would you want Peely to beat Young?...Not that he would. Ideally we want a good crop of young Scottish boxers to go out there and contest for commonwealth, British and European honours. Fighting each other at this stage doesn't raise the sport in this country. The more good boxers we can produce the higher the profile of the sport and lets be honest, Scotland could do with a few more homegrown heroes.

I think Kevin can go on to better things but he has to improve and perfect his style and learn from past performances. He's definitely got the will and the heart but that's not always enough at the higher levels.

[Top Dog]

How do you mean "why would I want Peely to beat Young", why not?? I agree it doesn't always make sense for scottish guys to fight each other, especially when there is plenty of english guys to go up against. But since the fight is on (again!) there isn't a lot to say apart from pick the winner. I don't think Mcneil has the power or pressure of Anderson, but I do think he'll beat Young just by using his movement. Young is over-rated in my opinion. Go on Colin, you gave him a lesson in the amateurs, time to do it again.

[md]

I mean TD, at 33 years old Colin's no spring chicken - where does he go from there; hold onto the celtic light middleweight title or become a journeyman or both. We want young clean living guys taking the sport forward not over-the-hill sluggers who fail drug tests. Yes, he did beat Gary in a close match in the amateurs but there's over 10 years age difference - Gary was still a boy. Now Gary's matured and has a really good pro style. He'll be fired up; I can't see McNeil getting up from the canvas after r3.

[Top Dog]

I don't see how Young will K.O McNeil in 3 rounds, Ossie Duran, who was the commonwealth champ at light middlweight (not now) couldn't k.o. him. So Young is better than Ossie Duran I know styles make fights, but Mcneil took some hefty shots from Duran and was there till the end. If Peely has more than 70% of his skill left he'll give Young a boxing lesson. McNeil has had a step up in fighting Duran, Young has been fighting hand picked run of the mill journey men, he's still to have any kind of test. Fact :P

[md]

That's right it was a step up in class for McNeil but he didn't get the fight on merit, he was a last minute stand-in. So he managed to see it through to the end.....well done him! But Ossie's no great puncher.

You're right again, Gary hasn't had a proper test to date and I don't think fighting Peely will be a test for him either. If McNeil is a good boxer why did he hang around until he was thirty in the amateurs, why didn't he turn pro earlier? I'll tell you why. He liked to jump about being the big man beating up kids.

There's plenty of time for Gary at 22 to develop and learn his trade. That's the problem with fans and some trainers in a lot of sports in this country we want results too quickly. Most sportsmen peek between the ages of 25 - 30. Fact yersel.

[Top Dog]

You said that Mcneil basically wasn't warrented a shot at the title, he was just a last minute stand in, well he wouldn't have got a shot at the commonwealth title if he wasn't rated! The board wouldn't have passed it. Maybe Duran isn't the hardest puncher out there, but he can certainly hit harder than Gary Young i.m.o. I believe Mcneil wouldn't be scared to have a go with anyone, can't say the same about Gary, get him in with the likes of Glen Mclarnon, or someone who at least has a heart beat. Then at least we could see if he had anything to offer at a higher level. Too many young guys out there are just interested in keeping a clean record with no loses, even if it means fighting nobodies, I would rather fight for a title and lose that not fight for a title, cause even if you lose you still gained the experience.
Gary will eventually get a crack at a title and will get found out cause he's never had a test. But it's a waste of time debating it, let's just wait and see.

[gogs67]

. Too many young guys out there are just interested in keeping a clean record with no loses, even if it means fighting nobodies, I would rather fight for a title and lose that not fight for a title, cause even if you lose you still gained the experience.

That's why i've so much respect for Scott Harrison and,now ,Ricky Burns.Good,hard fights early in the career!

[gogs67]

Iain Axon

Gary Young's grudge match with Colin McNeil finally looks set to take place on April 29 in Edinburgh in an eliminator for the British welterweight title.

The Scottish rivals have been slated to meet for some time now, but have been unable to get it on for a variety of reasons.

But with McNeil back after serving a suspension for a doping offence and Young raring to go, they will now duke it out at the Meadowbank Arena, Edinburgh.

Alex Arthur tops the bill, but McNeil-Young could be in the running for fight of the night.

Young, 15-0, is being hailed as one of the future stars of boxing north of the border, while McNeil was a five-time Scottish amateur champion.

He recently challenged Ossie Duran for the Commonwealth title, losing on points, while Young has never gone beyond eight rounds before.

[LaceEmUp]

Noticed theres some shouts out for Young Mutley, so am bumbing this back up ahead of tomorrows live bout ....to say I think Kevin Anderson will stop Young Mutley!

[LaceEmUp]

read that bumping