Geez these f'ers are crazy.

[Kev]

That is a complete and utter lie. It's nothing more than propaganda wrapped in a bullshit slogan. I can't honestly believe anyone thinks that way. What you are doing is more dangerous to me than the people you are "protecting" me from. You do not protect or represent me in any way and you're lying to yourself if you believe that is the case. I would gladly take up arms if someone or a people was directly threatening my life or that of my family etc., I'm far from a pacifist.

The Iraqi's and Afghan's, aside from an incredibly small minority (which is growing because of your actions), and 99.9% of the world pose no threat to me. They pose no threat to me, and there are deep seeded reasons why they pose a threat to you. Killing people is only going to further exasperate and perpetuate those reasons and prolong the bloodshed; killing and dying for an imperialist cause in no way improves the situation.

Going by your words and the George Orwell slogan in your sig, you do it because of a manipulated and misguided sense of patriotism and because you want to play the role of the "protector". I disagree with it, and I'm not sure I have any more respect for you than I do for the so called "terrorists" in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In his defense he did serve a 14 month tour of duty in Baghdad. I don't much like Islamic fundamentalist loons myself and can imagine if I spent more than a year in their country being shot at by them I would like them even less.

I understand that, and it's not him personally that I have a problem with. I just despise everything he represents and has been indoctrinated to believe in.

I do feel sorry for anybody who has to go over there and fight, much as I feel sorry for the Iraqi's who have to fight, but what's going on has no justification in my eyes.

haha that's exactly like me and everyone who doesn't believe in creationsim and a 10,000 year old earth

[CFH]

In his defense he did serve a 14 month tour of duty in Baghdad. I don't much like Islamic fundamentalist loons myself and can imagine if I spent more than a year in their country being shot at by them I would like them even less.

I understand that, and it's not him personally that I have a problem with. I just despise everything he represents and has been indoctrinated to believe in.

I do feel sorry for anybody who has to go over there and fight, much as I feel sorry for the Iraqi's who have to fight, but what's going on has no justification in my eyes.

haha that's exactly like me and everyone who doesn't believe in creationsim and a 10,000 year old earth

Exactly. I'm sure you loathe my anti-religious agnosticism, but we still get along fine.

[Andre]

I understand that, and it's not him personally that I have a problem with. I just despise everything he represents and has been indoctrinated to believe in.

I do feel sorry for anybody who has to go over there and fight, much as I feel sorry for the Iraqi's who have to fight, but what's going on has no justification in my eyes.

haha that's exactly like me and everyone who doesn't believe in creationsim and a 10,000 year old earth

Exactly. I'm sure you loathe my anti-religious agnosticism, but we still get along fine.

You two both squat for a piss, stop agreeing to disagree, kill each other like real men, its the only way I will be safe to sleep at night.