Why Marvin Hagler Is The Best Middleweight Of All Time.

[rjj tszyu]

Well i think Leonard had the chin to with stand Jones punching but also he had the power to land the question i had is if he landed often enough would he have the power to knock Jones out that was my question was how good do you think Leonards power was at the weight of mw.

I think Jones' chin at MW would stand up to Leonards power no problem. Jones' power and speed though would give leonard hell IMO.

[kingfrnk]

Well i think Leonard had the chin to with stand Jones punching but also he had the power to land the question i had is if he landed often enough would he have the power to knock Jones out that was my question was how good do you think Leonards power was at the weight of mw.

I think Jones' chin at MW would stand up to Leonards power no problem. Jones' power and speed though would give leonard hell IMO.

Im a huge SRL fan and I agree he would give him hell especially at MW. SRL at his best IMO was at welter.

[rjj tszyu]

IMO Hagler clearly beats Monzon who great smaller guys as well, but not as great Duran or Leonard or Hearns.

IMO Bernard is the best middleweight ever that I've seen and I think he beats either Monzon or Hagler because he is too crafty while still having all of Hagler's mean streak.

Imagine how good Monzon would have been had he trained! He only trained 1 month before a fight and only did roadwork and went half pace in sparring, he drank heavily, chain smoked and f***ed anything with a skirt on. He fought with a bullet lodged in his shoulder for the last 5 years of his career courtesy of his enraged wife at the time. Benvenuti was no bum and Monzon destroyed him twice, he beat the legend Emile Griffith and long time Welterweight king Jose Napoles. 14 title defenses and unbeaten in his last 13 years as a pro, i don't see Hagler beating him clearly.
Someone has to make a movie on Monzon's life, the guy was incredible in the ring, but outside the ring he was out of control.

So he beat the great Griffith? He wasn't so great at MW. Rubin Carter KO'd him in round 1 and he wasn't as great as some people and Hollywood make out.

Well i think Leonard had the chin to with stand Jones punching but also he had the power to land the question i had is if he landed often enough would he have the power to knock Jones out that was my question was how good do you think Leonards power was at the weight of mw.

I think Jones' chin at MW would stand up to Leonards power no problem. Jones' power and speed though would give leonard hell IMO.

Im a huge SRL fan and I agree he would give him hell especially at MW. SRL at his best IMO was at welter.

I totally agree with you on that. In fact barring SRR I think that SRL is the greatest welterweight of all time and I know some people will try to give me hell for that comment!

[kingfrnk]

IMO Hagler clearly beats Monzon who great smaller guys as well, but not as great Duran or Leonard or Hearns.

IMO Bernard is the best middleweight ever that I've seen and I think he beats either Monzon or Hagler because he is too crafty while still having all of Hagler's mean streak.

Imagine how good Monzon would have been had he trained! He only trained 1 month before a fight and only did roadwork and went half pace in sparring, he drank heavily, chain smoked and f***ed anything with a skirt on. He fought with a bullet lodged in his shoulder for the last 5 years of his career courtesy of his enraged wife at the time. Benvenuti was no bum and Monzon destroyed him twice, he beat the legend Emile Griffith and long time Welterweight king Jose Napoles. 14 title defenses and unbeaten in his last 13 years as a pro, i don't see Hagler beating him clearly.
Someone has to make a movie on Monzon's life, the guy was incredible in the ring, but outside the ring he was out of control.

So he beat the great Griffith? He wasn't so great at MW. Rubin Carter KO'd him in round 1 and he wasn't as great as some people and Hollywood make out.

I think Jones' chin at MW would stand up to Leonards power no problem. Jones' power and speed though would give leonard hell IMO.

Im a huge SRL fan and I agree he would give him hell especially at MW. SRL at his best IMO was at welter.

I totally agree with you on that. In fact barring SRR I think that SRL is the greatest welterweight of all time and I know some people will try to give me hell for that comment!

I havent really seen any fights on SRR at welter so I myself am not so sure either. But i do think that Leonard definatly fought the better opposition at welter though.

[rjj tszyu]

Imagine how good Monzon would have been had he trained! He only trained 1 month before a fight and only did roadwork and went half pace in sparring, he drank heavily, chain smoked and f***ed anything with a skirt on. He fought with a bullet lodged in his shoulder for the last 5 years of his career courtesy of his enraged wife at the time. Benvenuti was no bum and Monzon destroyed him twice, he beat the legend Emile Griffith and long time Welterweight king Jose Napoles. 14 title defenses and unbeaten in his last 13 years as a pro, i don't see Hagler beating him clearly.
Someone has to make a movie on Monzon's life, the guy was incredible in the ring, but outside the ring he was out of control.

So he beat the great Griffith? He wasn't so great at MW. Rubin Carter KO'd him in round 1 and he wasn't as great as some people and Hollywood make out.

Im a huge SRL fan and I agree he would give him hell especially at MW. SRL at his best IMO was at welter.

I totally agree with you on that. In fact barring SRR I think that SRL is the greatest welterweight of all time and I know some people will try to give me hell for that comment!

I havent really seen any fights on SRR at welter so I myself am not so sure either. But i do think that Leonard definatly fought the better opposition at welter though.

Sorry mate he is second to Robinson to me!

[RozzySean]

So he beat the great Griffith? He wasn't so great at MW. Rubin Carter KO'd him in round 1 and he wasn't as great as some people and Hollywood make out.



I totally agree with you on that. In fact barring SRR I think that SRL is the greatest welterweight of all time and I know some people will try to give me hell for that comment!

I havent really seen any fights on SRR at welter so I myself am not so sure either. But i do think that Leonard definatly fought the better opposition at welter though.

Sorry mate he is second to Robinson to me!

It's tough to say because there is so little tape of Robinson at WW. I'm inclined to believe Robinson was the best to every put on gloves at 147.