Who is the bigger cheater?

[Kev]

Not bad at all, but yeah when black seizes the initiative like that after 4 moves you pretty much know you are up against a patzer. In the game, I might have played 16...Bf5 instead putting pressure on the d-pawn, and also opening up the d-file for your Rook. But the way you playeed it is ok too.

yeah, 17...Qxb1 is nice, setting up a nice fork on c3.

Do you know how to use PGN files to record games. PGN is a standard notation used by chess software, usually you can copy and paste in and out of the software into text to post online somehere.

We can take this offline to PM to discuss furtehr if you want.

Yeah I can do, I couldn't when I posted as I was analysing and it locks the program up and doesnt allow to save, but its almost done now.

As to discussing in private yeah I'd love to, I'm getting really into the game now and am eager to learn and improve.

I think the game is a great example though of what happens when someone who doens't know anything of chess basics comes up against someone who knows just the fundamentals. If Ice really had only played twice as he originally implied he'd be as easy to beat as that guy was, if he was truly a prodigy and studied grandmaster games, he's be in this discussion now sharing with us his insights on openings, central control, initiative etc.