Top ten Heavyweights in the post Ali Era

[HattonTheHammer]

Great thread, mithrandir has won me over already....


1- Mike Tyson
2-Lennox Lewis
3- Larry Holmes
4-George Foreman
5-Evander Holyfield
6-Riddick Bowe
7-Vitali Klitschko
8-Oliver McCall
9-Wladimir Klitschko
10-Tyrell Biggs (please dont laugh)

[Lance Uppercut]

Great thread, mithrandir has won me over already....


1- Mike Tyson
2-Lennox Lewis
3- Larry Holmes
4-George Foreman
5-Evander Holyfield
6-Riddick Bowe
7-Vitali Klitschko
8-Oliver McCall
9-Wladimir Klitschko
10-Tyrell Biggs (please dont laugh)

Now your comment about Valuev beating Holyfield makes sense. I can see by your above list that you are probably one of those young, naive boxing fans who greatly overrates Tyson. And you probably like to use the pharse "a prime mike tyson" because you think it gives your argument more credibility, as if all other fighters aren't judged by their prime.

[BoomBoom]

Great thread! tough call but here how I have it:

1- Larry Holmes
2-Lennox Lewis
3- Evander Holyfield
4-Mike Tyson
5-George Foreman
6-Riddick Bowe
7-Wlad Klitschko
8-Michael Moorer
9-Vitali Klitschko
10-Cant think of anyone else worth mention..

[Trainer Monkey]

Great thread! tough call but here how I have it:

1- Larry Holmes
2-Lennox Lewis
3- Evander Holyfield
4-Mike Tyson
5-George Foreman
6-Riddick Bowe
7-Wlad Klitschko
8-Michael Moorer
9-Vitali Klitschko
10-Cant think of anyone else worth mention..

Put in Witherspoon at 10 and switch Lewis and Holyfield,and that would be pretty close to my list

[C-Lo]

I think Lewis, Holyfield, and Holmes can all have a case for being #1. Those three are, I believe, above the rest of the heavyweight division post-Ali era by a long shot. With Tyson really close by the three of them.

I'm actually surprised that Holyfield hasn't hit a top spot in anyone's list yet.

[BoomBoom]

Great thread! tough call but here how I have it:

1- Larry Holmes
2-Lennox Lewis
3- Evander Holyfield
4-Mike Tyson
5-George Foreman
6-Riddick Bowe
7-Wlad Klitschko
8-Michael Moorer
9-Vitali Klitschko
10-Cant think of anyone else worth mention..

Put in Witherspoon at 10 and switch Lewis and Holyfield,and that would be pretty close to my list

After some thought i think ill put Ray Mercer at #10. Holyfield at #2 is a good choice. You could really switch Lewis and Holyfield, I think they are both to par as far as greatness, though overall I perfer Holy also.

[VictorCharlie]

I can never decide how I want to rate guys. Best career, Most talented, heads up, mythical prime vs prime fight. Just my short list

Holmes
Holy
Lewis
Tyson
Bowe
Vitali
Wlad
Foreman
Moorer

[WelshDevilRob]

Lewis No.1 for me with Larry at No.2.
He beat better fighters in his career than Holmes did in his.
A points win for Lennox - Larry had a better jab but Lennox brought power and could easily match Larry for boxing skills and ring generalship.

Would have been nice if Larry fought some of his peers like Tubbs, Thomas, Tucker, Coetzee, Tate, Page regardless of whether he would have beaten them how come he never fought them. A 15-0 Witherspoon beat him on many cards - maybe just a bad day at the office for Larry.

The rest are a pick and mix but Tysons reign was much more impressive than Holyfields or Bowes and in his prime I would have favoured him to beat them.

[Trainer Monkey]

Great thread! tough call but here how I have it:

1- Larry Holmes
2-Lennox Lewis
3- Evander Holyfield
4-Mike Tyson
5-George Foreman
6-Riddick Bowe
7-Wlad Klitschko
8-Michael Moorer
9-Vitali Klitschko
10-Cant think of anyone else worth mention..

Put in Witherspoon at 10 and switch Lewis and Holyfield,and that would be pretty close to my list

After some thought i think ill put Ray Mercer at #10. Holyfield at #2 is a good choice. You could really switch Lewis and Holyfield, I think they are both to par as far as greatness, though overall I perfer Holy also.

Im not a huge fan of Holyfield because,and Im saying this as a Hopkins fan,he's too dirty,but I cant deny what he accomplished. He owned the division for years after Tysons fall from grace.

[HattonTheHammer]

Put in Witherspoon at 10 and switch Lewis and Holyfield,and that would be pretty close to my list

After some thought i think ill put Ray Mercer at #10. Holyfield at #2 is a good choice. You could really switch Lewis and Holyfield, I think they are both to par as far as greatness, though overall I perfer Holy also.

Im not a huge fan of Holyfield because,and Im saying this as a Hopkins fan,he's too dirty,but I cant deny what he accomplished. He owned the division for years after Tysons fall from grace.

How the hell does one actually justify putting arguably the greatest heavyweight of the last 20 years behind a man who just got out pointed by nikolay valuev

[HattonTheHammer]

Great thread, mithrandir has won me over already....


1- Mike Tyson
2-Lennox Lewis
3- Larry Holmes
4-George Foreman
5-Evander Holyfield
6-Riddick Bowe
7-Vitali Klitschko
8-Oliver McCall
9-Wladimir Klitschko
10-Tyrell Biggs (please dont laugh)

Now your comment about Valuev beating Holyfield makes sense. I can see by your above list that you are probably one of those young, naive boxing fans who greatly overrates Tyson. And you probably like to use the pharse "a prime mike tyson" because you think it gives your argument more credibility, as if all other fighters aren't judged by their prime.

Fighters like tyson, RJJ are very unique in that stating in their "prime" is almost saying they were unbeatable.

Tyson went through guys who in this day would own the heavys like the complete animal he was and if you must ask me YES a prime tyson would of probably gone through every single one of those others on the list bar lewis through sheer aggression.

technically he probably wouldnt even make a top 10 list but love him or hate him the guy was a complete monster in his prime

[LEGION]

No love for Tye Fields

[Lance Uppercut]

Great thread, mithrandir has won me over already....


1- Mike Tyson
2-Lennox Lewis
3- Larry Holmes
4-George Foreman
5-Evander Holyfield
6-Riddick Bowe
7-Vitali Klitschko
8-Oliver McCall
9-Wladimir Klitschko
10-Tyrell Biggs (please dont laugh)

Now your comment about Valuev beating Holyfield makes sense. I can see by your above list that you are probably one of those young, naive boxing fans who greatly overrates Tyson. And you probably like to use the pharse "a prime mike tyson" because you think it gives your argument more credibility, as if all other fighters aren't judged by their prime.

Fighters like tyson, RJJ are very unique in that stating in their "prime" is almost saying they were unbeatable.

Tyson went through guys who in this day would own the heavys like the complete animal he was and if you must ask me YES a prime tyson would of probably gone through every single one of those others on the list bar lewis through sheer aggression.

technically he probably wouldnt even make a top 10 list but love him or hate him the guy was a complete monster in his prime

So my call was accurate; your one of those people. If you continue to follow the sport, eventually you will gain a greater perspective, and you will understand why some of the older boxing fans think you "prime tyson" analysis is funny.

[Gandalf]

Prime Tyson really was the best Imo and I dont see the point in devaluing him over time. He was great and could beat any fighter in the history of heavyweight boxing.

[LEGION]

Prime Tyson really was the best Imo and I dont see the point in devaluing him over time. He was great and could beat eat any fighter in the history of heavyweight boxing.

True, true.....