The all new Velociraptor and why I laugh at 'science'

[Kev]

On the previous page you were arguing that dinosaurs descended from birds.

Of course I don't think science claims dinosaurs descended from birds, I must have made a typo.

It is interesting however even here that the earliest full bird is considerd by some to be Protoavis, a debate rages as to whether its a bird or a dinobird.

If it is a full bird that would put the evolution of birds as earlier than the earliest therapod dinosaurs but that is a long way from generally agreed scientific opinon and not what I'm talking about here.

No, the generally accepted scienitific belief is that therapod dinosaurs are the ancestors of birds, its no longer seriously questioned apart from an outspoken group led by Alan Fedducia as I said earlier.

So back on topic, are you saying that science DOESN'T claim that velociraptor now looks like that second turkey monster in my pic?

You wrote :

Actually to be more precise, it's the viw that science wants to convey it looked like in current books and literature to emphasise that they believe that therapod dinosaurs like velociraptor were the descendents of birds.

So being as precise as you could, yesterday, you were claiming that dinosaurs descended from birds.

But maybe it was just a precise typo. But then you did it again :

Erm every single scientist apart from Alan Fedducia who is the lone ornithologist voice against the therapod evolution of birds into dinosaurs.

Maybe it's just two typos and you really do know what you're talking about.


On what basis are you claiming that science has changed its opinion on what velociraptors looked like? On how they were portrayed in a Hollywood film?

Ah ok sorry I made two typos, well just checked my original posts and I have put it correctly there so no need to try and be a smart ass, it's pretty clear what I'm talking about.

Actually the way they are portrayed in a Hollywood film, i.e Jurassic Park is how they USED to be envisenged. Now they are no longer considered to look like that.

Have a look on Wikipedia to see what velociraptor is considered to look like now, they've even added wings.

National geographic also depict it with feathers now and speculate that it descended FROM a flying ancestor, so there a was bird type creature, that evolved into flightless, wingless therapod dinosaurs then back into birds again

Have a look at science daily's depiction of an early raptor dinosaur here if you think my pic was outlandish

Newly Discovered Birdlike Dinosaur Is Oldest Raptor Ever Found In South America


The kids pop up book I have was published by Dorling Kindersley one of the biggest reference book publishing companies in the world and the dinosaur pictures were also used in their adult reference books on dinosaurs

Follow this link

Dinosaurs - Dorling Kindersley

that bizarre creature on the cover of that book, that's Velociraptor now, 10 x weirder than the pic I found on the net.

This is the new reality, trying to promote the belief of dinosaur/bird evolution by turning velociraptor into a turkey monster.