floyd turns down Mosley....

[JazMerkin]

is this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.

Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.

And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....

And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.

Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?

If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.

HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.

32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.

The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"

There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.

And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"

1. True he did stop all of those guys, but they're also a group of guys with poor defensive skills, something you would expect a boxer of Mosley's calibre to take advantage of.

2. I don't see anyone saying Corrales is ducking a fighter now he's dead do you?

If you want to talk about a theoretical fight between Mayweather & Mosley fine, but I think people just think you should accept that as of now PBF is retired so is not ducking anyone. Also could you deal with the point about Mosley rejecting 2 fights with Mayweather before, as a number of posters have raised it but you haven't responded to that point, at least that I've read.

[JonesJrMayweather]

HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.

32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.

The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"

There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.

And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"

1. True he did stop all of those guys, but they're also a group of guys with poor defensive skills, something you would expect a boxer of Mosley's calibre to take advantage of.

2. I don't see anyone saying Corrales is ducking a fighter now he's dead do you?

If you want to talk about a theoretical fight between Mayweather & Mosley fine, but I think people just think you should accept that as of now PBF is retired so is not ducking anyone. Also could you deal with the point about Mosley rejecting 2 fights with Mayweather before, as a number of posters have raised it but you haven't responded to that point, at least that I've read.

I'm not saying he's ducking, I stand by the belief that he retired to protect his record. And as far people saying mosley ducked him, that's fine, but the last thing that happened with situation was shane asked him for a fight While he was still active, and he dismissed it to mosley looking for a payday. So....I won't officially say ducking until he comes back and fights pacman or hatton over mosley... esp if he fights Hatton. That's why i'm pulling for Hatton so then in term of legacy, mosley should be priority one for floyd. in terms of money then fight pac and stop crying about not getting full credit at the end of every fight...and say at least i made a lot of money.

[JonesJrMayweather]

HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.

32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.

The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"

There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.

And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"

1. True he did stop all of those guys, but they're also a group of guys with poor defensive skills, something you would expect a boxer of Mosley's calibre to take advantage of.

2. I don't see anyone saying Corrales is ducking a fighter now he's dead do you?

If you want to talk about a theoretical fight between Mayweather & Mosley fine, but I think people just think you should accept that as of now PBF is retired so is not ducking anyone. Also could you deal with the point about Mosley rejecting 2 fights with Mayweather before, as a number of posters have raised it but you haven't responded to that point, at least that I've read.

same with floyd...i.e baldomir and corely two guys that he hit at will and couldn't stop. but that's just being subjective and defending mosley.

Objectively i'd say baldoblaster has one of the toughest chins, hardest heads in the game, and floyd does have brittle hands so why risk injury when he could win the fight with pot shots. chop is just a tough contender.