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    Default Re: how would the klitschkos have got on during the late 80s/early 90s era??

    Some top quality and prospects were about in the early/mid 90's.Just grabbing a few off the top.

    Ray Mercer was such a late starter out of the Olympics but made for a serious player.His problem was inconsistancy and he was no stranger to absorbing punches while attempting to get his own thuding shots home in one deminsional fashion.If you possessed good hands with a steady jab,a little movement and some ring caginess...Mercer would have some problems.I think Wlad has a nice combination of the three.A comebacking Larry Holmes put on a clinic after being rocked in the 1st round to surprise many people.Sharp jab,fast occasional right and a shuffle got it done for him over 12.Shite,Feather fisted Francisco Damiani boxed Mercers ears off for the majority of their fight before succumbing to one single inside uppercut that shattered his nose and left the Italian kneeling on the canvas,oozing blood for the count.Mercer seemed to re-tool things and step it up with Holyfield,actually fighting behind a hard busy jab and giving as good as he got until Holyfield came on strong in the late rounds,hurting Mercer with a jarring left hook and forcing Ray to take a knee.He went to war with Lennox Lewis a year later in a nip & tuck scrap that saw both take huge shots and battle back.Next he soaked up every right hand an in shape (for him anyway) Tim Witherspoon could manage for a nice 'suprise' win.I think that this Mercer stood a chance in with Wlad based on pressure and mentality,not to mention tremendous chin.Wlad could not wait around and hesitate to launch that straight right off Jab,and would very much need that left hook to work over time.He'd have to be very active the entire as Mercer did not detour easily.I can see Wlad taking it be unanimous call but he would work for it!!

    One that would a total contrast might be a Razor Ruddock fight.One of the single hardest shots thrown by a Heavy in that era against a known checkable chin on Wlad.Ruddock had crappy balance and Either Brother would constantly stick a hard jab to head/body and vice versa to exploit it.Ruddock was hugely over reliant on that "Smash",that wicked left hook/left uppercut hybrid punch that he brought from the floor at times....and his right could be non existent.He'd have to throw his one trick pony with abandone and "IF" he found that chin under Wlads extended jab,Ruddock could very well KHTfarkout!!I just dont see it,Either brother has way too many tools that would take them to victory...Vitali possibly by TKO late.

    How about ....Bruce Seldon..... .Actually Seldon had a very nice rapid fire jab of his own.But both bros would exploit Seldons aluminum foil chin,his constantly squarring up and ....lack of depth in Seldons chest region.

    One that I think would be nice would be a very tip top shape Riddick Bowe.Bowe takes alot of flack,and frankly has him self to blame as he sabotaged himself with sloppy habits and an aloof attitude.When bowe was in rare form,at best...Holyfield 1,Gonzalez beat down and maybe Herbie Hide,he preformed very well.Bowe had some nice range and a solid jab from which he could close distance fast.One thing that gets over looked about Bowe Imo,is his ability as an inside fighter,solid body work and harsh uppercuts.Bowes chin was good though Holyfield cleaned his clock,Golota wobbled him,Herbie hide shook him,...He could be easily distracted ,I think Rock Newman had alot to do with that.I think a fit Bowe could TKO Wlad once he got around that jab.Vitali a different story though.Vitali would be able to surpass his strength,a solid beard of his own,and he would not hesitate to match Bowes punching when able.Edge to Vitali down stretch......Running on at the mouth,Need Coffee

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    Default Re: how would the klitschkos have got on during the late 80s/early 90s era??

    Tommy Morrison, Michael Moorer, Shannon Briggs, and Andrew Golota would have also been interesting matchups for the brothers.

    I do like the Rudduck matchup as well...he was very strong but like you said he relied too much on the smash. Also if people think Wlad looks uncomfortable in the ring they should take a closer look at Razor....he was very tightly wound at times

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    Default Re: how would the klitschkos have got on during the late 80s/early 90s era??

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Tommy Morrison, Michael Moorer, Shannon Briggs, and Andrew Golota would have also been interesting matchups for the brothers.

    I do like the Rudduck matchup as well...he was very strong but like you said he relied too much on the smash. Also if people think Wlad looks uncomfortable in the ring they should take a closer look at Razor....he was very tightly wound at times
    mercer just seems like the kind of guy that would be tailor made for the klitschkos to jab away and beat.

    A prime holyfield would of given either brother absoloute nightmares for 12rounds - no way i could see Wlad getting anything other than KO`d in that one and Vitali probably as well.
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    Well the Evander who got beaten by Moorer and the one who was stopped vs Bowe in the third fight or the one that fought Lennox Lewis in their first fight I think Wladimir could handle but it's a HORRIBLE style matchup when Evander is fully healthy as he applied so much pressure and had such a great chin that he could handle Wlad's punches. Vitali IMO could beat Holyfield, different style, different strengths....Vitali is one of the toughest fighters to give anyone a clear shot over him without having doubts.

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    Default Re: how would the klitschkos have got on during the late 80s/early 90s era??

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    d of given either brother absoloute nightmares for 12rounds - no way i could see Wlad getting anything other than KO`d in that one and Vitali probably as well.
    The exact opposite is the case. Both brothers would have been an awful matchup even for a prime Holyfield. They are both simply too big and would have jabbed him to death. They'd have punished and probably stopped him even in his prime. Just not a good matchup for Holy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    d of given either brother absoloute nightmares for 12rounds - no way i could see Wlad getting anything other than KO`d in that one and Vitali probably as well.
    The exact opposite is the case. Both brothers would have been an awful matchup even for a prime Holyfield. They are both simply too big and would have jabbed him to death. They'd have punished and probably stopped him even in his prime. Just not a good matchup for Holy
    No way! If Holy showed up for a fight with either brother in full health and in his prime he would totally school both!

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    Default Re: how would the klitschkos have got on during the late 80s/early 90s era??

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    d of given either brother absoloute nightmares for 12rounds - no way i could see Wlad getting anything other than KO`d in that one and Vitali probably as well.
    The exact opposite is the case. Both brothers would have been an awful matchup even for a prime Holyfield. They are both simply too big and would have jabbed him to death. They'd have punished and probably stopped him even in his prime. Just not a good matchup for Holy
    No way! If Holy showed up for a fight with either brother in full health and in his prime he would totally school both!

    Holyfield dealt with bowes height advantage with some ease and was able to run rings around him quite often.

    The evander holyfield that turned up and beat tyson twice and bowe once would of found a way to make both klitschkos fight his fight!
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    Default Re: how would the klitschkos have got on during the late 80s/early 90s era??

    Holyfield always had trouble with Bowe's jab and that is the best weapon of Wlad. Holyfield would eventually catch up with Wlad because he could not live with the intensity of Holyfield that fought Bowe the first time. Vitali would probably survive to the end but lose a decision.
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    Default Re: how would the klitschkos have got on during the late 80s/early 90s era??

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    d of given either brother absoloute nightmares for 12rounds - no way i could see Wlad getting anything other than KO`d in that one and Vitali probably as well.
    The exact opposite is the case. Both brothers would have been an awful matchup even for a prime Holyfield. They are both simply too big and would have jabbed him to death. They'd have punished and probably stopped him even in his prime. Just not a good matchup for Holy

    Agreed. Look what Lewis did to Holyfield.

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