floyd turns down Mosley....

[Taeth]

First of all Mayweather-Hatton wasn't easy for Mayweather, he was pressed against the ropes all night, but his defensive was just too tight, and Joe Cortez didn't let Hatton fight on the inside.

Oscar and Mosley have ko'ed a lot of the same guys but lets compare how they did it.

Lets go back to Jesse James Leija. Oscar ko'ed him in 2, it took Mosley 9 rounds. Wilfredo Rivera it took Oscar 8 rounds(where he won virtually ever round), it took Mosley 10 rounds(one person even had it just a round apart. Oscar KO'ed Vargas in 11, but this was Vargas in or near his prime, Mosley fought him 4 years later. The first fight Mosley stopped Vargas, but like I said Vargas wasn't being hurt by anything MOsley threw and was walking through it. Your example of Morales against Raheem is idiotic. How the fuck did you draw a comparison out of the two fights? I am stating that Mosley's power wasn't bothering Vargas, while you are trying to find some relation between me talking about punching power and someone being outboxed. The next fight MOsley did stop Vargas in 6, but he was badly weight drained. Lets compare Mayorga against both, Oscar stopped him in 6, he dropped him with a left hook in the first round, outboxed him with that jab every round. Mosley fought an ugly battle, and literally knocked Mayorga out in the last second of the last round.

Oscar was the first guy to stop JCC and did it twice(though once was a cut). JCC was ten times the fighter even at the end of his career that Margarito ever was, and ever will be.

Basically Mosley is KO'ing the same guys Oscar was, but after Oscar already did it, in a less impressive form. THere could be an arguement that Trinidad did it before either of them more impressively than either of them.

Back to my original conclusion Ricardo Torres, Demarcus Corley, and Margarito all either badly hurt Cotto or stopped him, while Mosley couldn't. The first is a hard puncher, but a natural 140 pounder, the second is hardly a puncher at all, and the last isn't a big puncher either.

Right now I am not argueing whether Mayweather beats Mosley or not, just that people would have to be retarded to think Mosley stops him. There is no evidence to back this up.

[JonesJrMayweather]

First of all Mayweather-Hatton wasn't easy for Mayweather, he was pressed against the ropes all night, but his defensive was just too tight, and Joe Cortez didn't let Hatton fight on the inside.

Oscar and Mosley have ko'ed a lot of the same guys but lets compare how they did it.

Lets go back to Jesse James Leija. Oscar ko'ed him in 2, it took Mosley 9 rounds. Wilfredo Rivera it took Oscar 8 rounds(where he won virtually ever round), it took Mosley 10 rounds(one person even had it just a round apart. Oscar KO'ed Vargas in 11, but this was Vargas in or near his prime, Mosley fought him 4 years later. The first fight Mosley stopped Vargas, but like I said Vargas wasn't being hurt by anything MOsley through and was walking through it. Your example of Morales against Raheem is idiotic. How the fuck did you draw a comparison out of the two fights? I am stating that Mosley's power wasn't bothering Vargas, while you are trying to find some relation between me talking about punching power and someone being outboxed. The next fight MOsley did stop Vargas in 6, but he was badly weight drained. Lets compare Mayorga against both, Oscar stopped him in 6, he dropped him with a left hook in the first round, outboxed him with that jab every round. Mosley fought an ugly battle, and literally knocked Mayorga out in the last second of the last round.

Oscar was the first guy to stop JCC and did it twice(though once was a cut). JCC was ten times the fighter even at the end of his career that Margarito ever was, and ever will be.

Basically Mosley is KO'ing the same guys Oscar was, but after Oscar already did it, in a less impressive form. THere could be an arguement that Trinidad did it before either of them more impressively than either of them.

Back to my original conclusion Ricardo Torres, Demarcus Corley, and Margarito all either badly hurt Cotto or stopped him, while Mosley couldn't. The first is a hard puncher, but a natural 140 pounder, the second is hardly a puncher at all, and the last isn't a big puncher either.

Right now I am not argueing whether Mayweather beast Mosley or not, just that people would have to be retarded to think Mosley stops him. There is no evidence to back this up.

Who said he was going to stop him? Even if someone did ,its far more plausible for shane to stop him than it is for him to stop shane...and who hurt cotto argument is silly because john ruiz knocked holyfield down...does this mean ruiz hits harder than Tyson and Lewis?

[Taeth]

I'm not arguing who beats who, but whether Mosley will beat Mayweather up, and I am saying he wouldn't Mayweather is too good defensively and he would tie Mosley up the same way SHane tied up Margarito.

Mosley-Mayweather is definitely a competitive fight, I just think their styles match up in Mayweather's favor.

MayweatherJonesJR after the Oscar fight for awhile I did see the MOsley-Mayweather fight going the same way you did. I even made a thread about if Oscar could make Mayweather defensive in their fight then the faster Mosley would take Floyd to the ropes and not allow Floyd to get anything off, but then I watched the fight more, and Oscar wasn't able to land anything effective. His jab wasn't working, and he landed clean shots only a handful of times against Mayweather. Also the guy who had been most effective against Floyd fought more like Cotto, and thats why I think Miguel is a more difficult guy for MAyweather, because his body is the easiest place to hit Floyd, and Shane is a good body puncher, but not a punishing one like Cotto is.

As for Mayweather stopping MOsley who said that he would? I never did. Floyd would break both his hands long before he would even hurt Shane.

[ElTerribleMorales]

honestly Floyd could comeback next month and he would pick up right where he left off, he'd beat all of the following with little to no problem...

Berto
Collazo
Cintron
Margarito
Hatton (again)
Clottey
Judah (again)
Quintana

only ones to me that would actually challenge him and i still think he'd win cause of his stamina, skill, and defense are...

Cotto
Mosley
Williams