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    Default Re: Ok this is heresy but was Ali actually a total knob?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I think Jack Johnson and John L. Sullivan were big time trash talkers and they were around well before Ali

    True, but they didn't start it as Ali did. That's the diffrence. Could you ever imagine guys like Quarry or Foster or Louis or Lyle doing this back in the day? Of course, Galento did sau he would "moider the bum."

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    Default Re: Ok this is heresy but was Ali actually a total knob?

    He also started "trash talk" as we know it today

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    Default Re: Ok this is heresy but was Ali actually a total knob?

    I don't know the "I'll whip any son of a bitch in the room" seems to be pretty timeless trash talk.

    Johnson did a lot of the taunting which Ali brought back into style for the black athlete.

    And after given a $10,000 Championship belt by Richard Fox(reporter) Sullivan was quoted as saying "I wouldn't put that thing around the next of a God damn dog"....seems to me he knew how to take someone down a notch be it who he was fighting or just a reporter
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    Default Re: Ok this is heresy but was Ali actually a total knob?

    Well, I guess we have to agree to disagree then.

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    Default Re: Ok this is heresy but was Ali actually a total knob?

    Dude Ali got his persona from Gorgeous George and other pro wrestlers. He was amazing in front of a microphone, but he's not as original as u claim.

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