would calzaghe of ever been beaten??

[fan johnny]

46-0, every major fighter beaten, 2 divisions completely cleaned up and unified - is it fair to say that had joe calzaghe decided to stay around for a couple of years he would of gone to possibly eclipse marcianos unbeaten record??

He just strikes me as the kind of fighter that is so good he just doesnt have to turn up and fight his A game to beat a guy and apart from perhaps dawson catching him with something special there really was nothing of any threat that would of suggested joe would be in danger of not getting to 50-52 straight wins.

Remember hearing the chant at the hatton-mayweather weigh in aimed at bernard hopkins of "You`ll never beat calzaghe, you`ll never beat calzaghe" and it actually now seems pretty apt to be honest.

top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?? a good possibility
greatest ever british sportsmen?? id probably have him ahead of the likes of moore, charlton, botham etc!

100% without a doubt! A well placed shot to the chin causing the brain to slosh its way the back of the head causing blackout or OK. Since there is no specific way to pinpoint the exact cause it is considered chance.... but the point is, it can happen to any fighter.

Not to belittle the mans accomplishments but there have been many boxers, although they did quit undefeated, with more wins without a loss than Calzague. It's just Calzague decided he had enough.... Every boxer (Pacquiao, Mayweather, SR Robinson... etc) in and out of the game could have been been OK'd and end up with a "L" on thier record... It is NOT a scracred! statistic and quite to the contrary a fighter that comes back from down or a a loss earns more respect from his peers and fans alike.

[Pugilistic]

I feel had Calzaghe faced either a prime Jones or Hopkins he would have lost.

[HattonTheHammer]

Do love it when the bitter americans come on claiming either chad dawson or glen johnson would of beaten calzaghe.

GLEN JOHNSON - are you fucking serious

The guy would be tailor made for calzaghe to run rings around for 12rounds.

As for chad dawson - Adamek knocked him down and glen johnson beat him - if you seriously think a guy with 20something and 0 and has already come up short has a chance against a ring bully like calzaghe your out of your minds!

America spent years building up the likes of RJJ and hopkins as all time great champions and along comes an unknown from the welsh valleys and blows both of them away - all of a sudden your so called legends fade into comparison compared to jonny foreigner!!

[jack2121]

Do love it when the bitter americans come on claiming either chad dawson or glen johnson would of beaten calzaghe.

GLEN JOHNSON - are you fucking serious

The guy would be tailor made for calzaghe to run rings around for 12rounds.

As for chad dawson - Adamek knocked him down and glen johnson beat him - if you seriously think a guy with 20something and 0 and has already come up short has a chance against a ring bully like calzaghe your out of your minds!

America spent years building up the likes of RJJ and hopkins as all time great champions and along comes an unknown from the welsh valleys and blows both of them away - all of a sudden your so called legends fade into comparison compared to jonny foreigner!!

LOL Here Here!

[El Kabong]

Do love it when the bitter americans come on claiming either chad dawson or glen johnson would of beaten calzaghe.

GLEN JOHNSON - are you fucking serious

The guy would be tailor made for calzaghe to run rings around for 12rounds.

As for chad dawson - Adamek knocked him down and glen johnson beat him - if you seriously think a guy with 20something and 0 and has already come up short has a chance against a ring bully like calzaghe your out of your minds!

America spent years building up the likes of RJJ and hopkins as all time great champions and along comes an unknown from the welsh valleys and blows both of them away - all of a sudden your so called legends fade into comparison compared to jonny foreigner!!

Well plenty of people are hot on David Haye who has already been KO'd by a cruiserweight sooooo can you really blame the people who think that way?

Also when Lennox Lewis was fighting he had to crawl out under the shaddows of Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, and Riddick Bowe to make his own legacy and to accomplish that he sought those guys out to fight them and beat them AND he came to America to do it.

[DatsiK]

I think a late 90's RJJ and a early 2000's Hopkins would both walk over Joe but Chad Dawson? gimme a break. If Glen Johnson can beat him to the punch and catch him cleanly then Joe will make mince meat of him. Joe will beat him to the punch EVERY time and won't get hit either. I think the only person right now who would have a genuine chance of beating Joe would be a slick defensive fighter.. I think a Mayweather at super middle would tear Joe apart.

[Althugz]

America spent years building up the likes of RJJ and hopkins as all time great champions and along comes an unknown from the welsh valleys and blows both of them away - all of a sudden your so called legends fade into comparison compared to jonny foreigner!!

You said a hell of a lot in that one sentence there :

Along comes an unknown - Funny isn't it how Calzaghe had 45 or so fights and was STILL an unknown in the boxing world. Why? Because he didn't have the balls to quit being Frank Warren's spoilt baby boy and just accepted the ego rub that Frank was giving him. Mario Veit x 2? Where the fuck was Reid x2 or Hopkins x2? Pussy...

Legends...you're right there mate! He waited for Hopkins or RJJ to be damn near mummified before wanting to step in with the already 'LEGENDS'. Why not fight them prime for prime so we could establish who the true great legends were gonna be back then? Pussy...

Basically...fuck Joe Calzaghe. I rate Benn, Eubank, Hatton and Lewis higher than that turd.

JC, Top 5 champ of all time?...wow... Someone's smoking some serious JC cock with that statement...

[THE THIRD MAN]

He beat a washed up Roy Jones Jr and a 43 year old Bernard Hopkins and this makes him a top 5 ATG? I don't think so Tim!
The Kessler win is his best, would have liked to have seen him do it again against the K man but it was not to be. He was obviously good, and he retires undefeated, you can't do any better than that. I would have been more impressed had he beaten any of those guys at their peak, (Kessler excepted) he was a stay at home champion for 95% of his career and only traveled when the odds of winning were stacked in his favour.

[Kel]

He beat a washed up Roy Jones Jr and a 43 year old Bernard Hopkins and this makes him a top 5 ATG? I don't think so Tim!
The Kessler win is his best, would have liked to have seen him do it again against the K man but it was not to be. He was obviously good, and he retires undefeated, you can't do any better than that. I would have been more impressed had he beaten any of those guys at their peak, (Kessler excepted) he was a stay at home champion for 95% of his career and only traveled when the odds of winning were stacked in his favour.

Kessler fights Hopkins, who wins? Just answer me that, who would your money be on?

[JazMerkin]

He beat a washed up Roy Jones Jr and a 43 year old Bernard Hopkins and this makes him a top 5 ATG? I don't think so Tim!
The Kessler win is his best, would have liked to have seen him do it again against the K man but it was not to be. He was obviously good, and he retires undefeated, you can't do any better than that. I would have been more impressed had he beaten any of those guys at their peak, (Kessler excepted) he was a stay at home champion for 95% of his career and only traveled when the odds of winning were stacked in his favour.

Kessler fights Hopkins, who wins? Just answer me that, who would your money be on?

A prime Hopkins, & I wouldn't even be thinking about it, he'd take him easy. 44 year old B-Hop against Kessler would be a 50-50 for me

[Kel]

He beat a washed up Roy Jones Jr and a 43 year old Bernard Hopkins and this makes him a top 5 ATG? I don't think so Tim!
The Kessler win is his best, would have liked to have seen him do it again against the K man but it was not to be. He was obviously good, and he retires undefeated, you can't do any better than that. I would have been more impressed had he beaten any of those guys at their peak, (Kessler excepted) he was a stay at home champion for 95% of his career and only traveled when the odds of winning were stacked in his favour.

Kessler fights Hopkins, who wins? Just answer me that, who would your money be on?

A prime Hopkins, & I wouldn't even be thinking about it, he'd take him easy. 44 year old B-Hop against Kessler would be a 50-50 for me

I'd love to know what other people think too but I'd bet on Hopkins. He is a dirty, awkward but a smart fighter who I think would frustrate the hell out of Kessler.

So if 'The Third Man' thinks Kessler was his best win yet I reckon most would pick Hopkins to win if he fought Kessler (I know you have it a pick em) isn't that plain wrong? He put age 43 in there to make Hopkins sound as past it as he could.

I think Hopkins is ugly to watch at times and fights dirty but he had Kelly Pavlic in fits and broke his heart, a guy that beat Taylor twice(one by KO)and Taylor beat Hopkins twice.

Hopkins (as much as I hate him) is one of the best conditioned fighters of any era at his age and has evolved almost perfectly with his style. That is fact.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Kessler fights Hopkins, who wins? Just answer me that, who would your money be on?

A prime Hopkins, & I wouldn't even be thinking about it, he'd take him easy. 44 year old B-Hop against Kessler would be a 50-50 for me

I'd love to know what other people think too but I'd bet on Hopkins. He is a dirty, awkward but a smart fighter who I think would frustrate the hell out of Kessler.

So if 'The Third Man' thinks Kessler was his best win yet I reckon most would pick Hopkins to win if he fought Kessler (I know you have it a pick em) isn't that plain wrong? He put age 43 in there to make Hopkins sound as past it as he could.

I think Hopkins is ugly to watch at times and fights dirty but he had Kelly Pavlic in fits and broke his heart, a guy that beat Taylor twice(one by KO)and Taylor beat Hopkins twice.

Hopkins (as much as I hate him) is one of the best conditioned fighters of any era at his age and has evolved almost perfectly with his style. That is fact.

I hear what you are saying about Hopkins, he is a freak and his ability to continue to fight and perform as well as he does at his age defies all that we know about boxers. How would Calzaghe handle a 30-35 old Hopkins? I go Hopkins UD.
Kessler was a great win for Calzaghe and all praise to him for that one, Kessler is a very, very good fighter and Calzaghe beat him at his best.

[Kel]

A prime Hopkins, & I wouldn't even be thinking about it, he'd take him easy. 44 year old B-Hop against Kessler would be a 50-50 for me

I'd love to know what other people think too but I'd bet on Hopkins. He is a dirty, awkward but a smart fighter who I think would frustrate the hell out of Kessler.

So if 'The Third Man' thinks Kessler was his best win yet I reckon most would pick Hopkins to win if he fought Kessler (I know you have it a pick em) isn't that plain wrong? He put age 43 in there to make Hopkins sound as past it as he could.

I think Hopkins is ugly to watch at times and fights dirty but he had Kelly Pavlic in fits and broke his heart, a guy that beat Taylor twice(one by KO)and Taylor beat Hopkins twice.

Hopkins (as much as I hate him) is one of the best conditioned fighters of any era at his age and has evolved almost perfectly with his style. That is fact.

I hear what you are saying about Hopkins, he is a freak and his ability to continue to fight and perform as well as he does at his age defies all that we know about boxers. How would Calzaghe handle a 30-35 old Hopkins? I go Hopkins UD.
Kessler was a great win for Calzaghe and all praise to him for that one, Kessler is a very, very good fighter and Calzaghe beat him at his best.

What I'm saying is, prime or not, Hopkins would beat Kessler. He would beat him now and he would beat him in his prime. My point was that your saying Kessler was his[Joe Calzaghe's]best win because he was younger, younger usually is considered a fighters prime naturally.

The thing is you said a washed up RJJ and a 43 year old Hopkins. 43 he may be but he is still amazingly able to compete with the elite and beat them.

[VictorCharlie]

ATG? Undefeated
Great fighter and one of the best SMW ever but against better fighters or younger versions of some of his opponents he is not undefeated. I'd take prime Eubanks/RJJ/Bhop all over Joe

[El Kabong]

Kessler fights Hopkins, who wins? Just answer me that, who would your money be on?

Kessler can box, I wouldn't fancy Bernard to do to Kessler what he did to Pavlik.


Jermain Taylor beat up on Hopkins TWICE (and IMO beat Pavlik in the rematch) why is Calzaghe opposed to fighting him?