floyd turns down Mosley....

[JonesJrMayweather]

HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.

32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.

The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"

There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.

And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"

You really are an idiot. Where in my post did i try to talk down Mosley's power? I said using YOUR logic, which is comparing fighters by who they could/couldn't knock out in their past, that Mosley isn't as powerful as Pac-man considering Pac knocked out ODLH and Mosley didn't.

I think Mosley/Floyd would be a great fight, but just like you, i have an opinion on the outcome, and that would be that PBF takes it. I can accept someone differing from my opinion QUITE fine.. But when you come here and try to say things are facts because in the past this guy couldn't KO someone is ridiculous, and thats when i get irritated to the point where i have to post..

Styles make fights. To say that Castillo doesn't have power because of the Hatton fight is real amateurish of you. Along with most of your other comments.

those comments about mosley's power weren't directed at you. they were toward taeth who claimed castillo and corrales are p4p bigger punchers than shane...which is clearly false. I honestly hadn't paid attention what you were saying any how. I think perhaps i quoted you by accident. Where you can clearly read that it was Taeth that claimed the p4p power comment..so that was a mistake on my part. And you can also further read that I make the point of how silly it is to determine who hits harder based off how they faired against the same opponent. By stating that just because ruiz scored a knockdown on holyfield doesn't mean he hits harder lewis and tyson who couldn't.

And I never said castillo didnt have power..i said he doesn't have as much p4p power as shane....to me p4p power means he carries it up to the next weight which shane has clearly done more effectively than both corrales and castillo. Based off the fights they've had at the higher weights.

[Taeth]

I didn't say Castillo and Corrales are p4p bigger punchers than Mosely in general, I said Castillo at 135 at that time, and Corrales 130 are bigger punchers than mosley is at 147, please actually read what I am writting. Obviously neither of them are bigger punchers than Mosley was at 135. P4P power means that at the time Castillo was fighting Maweather he hit harder as a lightweight htan Mosley did at 147, also in comparison to how much better Mayweather would be able to take a punch at 147.

If you are comparing two fighters facing one opponent obviously you can't always compare who hits harder, but when you have like 6 or 7 fights where both guys fought the same guy, but one consistently fought the people first, closer to their prime, and stopped them quicker, then obviously he hits harder. Anyone who tries to deny Oscar hit harder than Mosley is an idiot because he doesn't, he's smaller and he doesn't have that same explosive power.

The biggest reason I think Mosley loses to Mayweather is that he would come out, look pretty good, but then Mayweather would adapt and Mosley is terrible at adapting you saw it against Forrest, and against Winky Wright, and against Oscar in their second fight. He can't change his strategy half way through a fight, and be effective. He tried to against Cotto, and it didn't work as well.