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    Default Re: Why Haye Klitschko is falling apart

    Wladimir wants to be a crowd pleaser...Wlad always says that the belts don't mean anything if the people don't respect the man holding them. And although lots of people like to hate on the way Wlad fights or who he fights he does his job professionally and wants to please the fans.

    Everyone was scared of Sam Peter when he was coming up and Wladimir stepped up after being stopped 2 times in very recent fights and just destroyed Sam Peter....Sam hasn't been the same fighter since then.

    Wlad didn't want to fight Calvin Brock, Ray Austin, or Tony Thompson but he fought them and KO'd all of them.

    Wlad made the unification fight with Sultan Ibragimov happen and although it was a lackluster fight Wlad knew it and appologized for it he said something like "I know everyone is disappointed that there was no knockout but there will be a knockout next time"

    So in the end Wlad wants to please the fans and he knows he has to have the BEST competition he can find and the most DANGEROUS fighters to rival him and he's going to get David Haye or Haye's camp is going to ruin the deal and Wlad will give Cris Arreola the chance to fight him. Wlad is a smart businessman and he has made very smart choices in his career path (bar the Sanders fight).

    David Haye has a shot to earn the titles and write his own ticket AFTER winning but he's trying to do it before he's done anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Wladimir wants to be a crowd pleaser...
    The heavyweight with the least crowd pleasing style in history wants to be a crowd pleaser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Wladimir wants to be a crowd pleaser...
    The heavyweight with the least crowd pleasing style in history wants to be a crowd pleaser.
    "least crowd pleasing style in history"? Hyperbole much? I guess you've never sat through the torture that is a John Ruiz fight? Shannon "Asthmatic" Briggs, anyone? I'll grant that Wlad's technical style is not the most exciting out there, but compared to a lot of the current crop of heavys he's practically Arturro Gatti. At least Wlad usually knocks his opponents out after softening them up with his jab.

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    But I thought all the Haye nuthuggers told us Wlad was running scared? Now it turns out Haye and his team are making insane, unrealistic economic demands even though Wlad already agreed to do the fight on Haye's home turf? Say it ain't so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
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    Wladimir wants to be a crowd pleaser...
    The heavyweight with the least crowd pleasing style in history wants to be a crowd pleaser.
    "least crowd pleasing style in history"? Hyperbole much? I guess you've never sat through the torture that is a John Ruiz fight? Shannon "Asthmatic" Briggs, anyone? I'll grant that Wlad's technical style is not the most exciting out there, but compared to a lot of the current crop of heavys he's practically Arturro Gatti. At least Wlad usually knocks his opponents out after softening them up with his jab.

    Least Crowd Pleasing style?? Have you watched any of Wlad's fights? So Lennox Lewis sucked as well because Wlad and Lewis have a very similar style....Wlad is top ten in knockout percentage of active fighters.....You must be one of those people that enjoyed when Ruiz and Byrd were champions.....

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    Rafael's does come off as one sided, only interviewing the Klitchko side, disparaging Haye and calling Wlad a true champion.

    Rafael provides some good info some times, he's also an embarrassment at times, most notably giving his opinion on fights he never saw.

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    Most boring of all time, I don't know, he's a big fan of the hand touch, either way he's certainly not all that concerned with being crowd pleasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
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    The heavyweight with the least crowd pleasing style in history wants to be a crowd pleaser.
    "least crowd pleasing style in history"? Hyperbole much? I guess you've never sat through the torture that is a John Ruiz fight? Shannon "Asthmatic" Briggs, anyone? I'll grant that Wlad's technical style is not the most exciting out there, but compared to a lot of the current crop of heavys he's practically Arturro Gatti. At least Wlad usually knocks his opponents out after softening them up with his jab.

    Least Crowd Pleasing style?? Have you watched any of Wlad's fights? So Lennox Lewis sucked as well because Wlad and Lewis have a very similar style....Wlad is top ten in knockout percentage of active fighters.....You must be one of those people that enjoyed when Ruiz and Byrd were champions.....
    You must of missed the dullest fight i have ever seen im my entire life against Sultan Ibragimov was voted worst fight of the year and his action packed fight against Tony Thompson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
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    "least crowd pleasing style in history"? Hyperbole much? I guess you've never sat through the torture that is a John Ruiz fight? Shannon "Asthmatic" Briggs, anyone? I'll grant that Wlad's technical style is not the most exciting out there, but compared to a lot of the current crop of heavys he's practically Arturro Gatti. At least Wlad usually knocks his opponents out after softening them up with his jab.

    Least Crowd Pleasing style?? Have you watched any of Wlad's fights? So Lennox Lewis sucked as well because Wlad and Lewis have a very similar style....Wlad is top ten in knockout percentage of active fighters.....You must be one of those people that enjoyed when Ruiz and Byrd were champions.....
    You must of missed the dullest fight i have ever seen im my entire life against Sultan Ibragimov was voted worst fight of the year and his action packed fight against Tony Thompson.
    The Ibragimov fight was certainly boring, but that was hardly Wlad's fault as Ibragimov was in survival mode from the start, circling the ring and refusing to engage. If one guy simply refuses to put up a fight, there's not much you can do other than give the other guy his only chance by going in recklessly. I did not think the Thompson fight was all that bad, not all-time classic by any means, but it certainly was not a stinker, and Wlad ended it with a crushing knockout. To say that Wlad is the most boring heavyweight of all-time is just plain silly. Have you ever seen John Ruiz, Chris Byrd, or Shannon Briggs fight? C'mon now, that was just a silly statement.
    Last edited by ClubberLang; 02-16-2009 at 04:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
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    Least Crowd Pleasing style?? Have you watched any of Wlad's fights? So Lennox Lewis sucked as well because Wlad and Lewis have a very similar style....Wlad is top ten in knockout percentage of active fighters.....You must be one of those people that enjoyed when Ruiz and Byrd were champions.....
    You must of missed the dullest fight i have ever seen im my entire life against Sultan Ibragimov was voted worst fight of the year and his action packed fight against Tony Thompson.
    The Ibragimov fight was certainly boring, but that was hardly Wlad's fault as Ibragimov was in survival mode from the start, circling the ring and refusing to engage. If one guy simply refuses to put up a fight, there's not much you can do other than give the other guy his only chance by going in recklessly. I did not think the Thompson fight was all that bad, not all-time classic by any means, but it certainly was not a stinker, and Wlad ended it with a crushing knockout. To say that Wlad is the most boring heavyweight of all-time is just plain silly. Have you ever seen John Ruiz, Chris Byrd, or Shannon Briggs fight? C'mon now, that was just a silly statement.
    Don't forget Audley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post

    "least crowd pleasing style in history"? Hyperbole much? I guess you've never sat through the torture that is a John Ruiz fight? Shannon "Asthmatic" Briggs, anyone? I'll grant that Wlad's technical style is not the most exciting out there, but compared to a lot of the current crop of heavys he's practically Arturro Gatti. At least Wlad usually knocks his opponents out after softening them up with his jab.

    Least Crowd Pleasing style?? Have you watched any of Wlad's fights? So Lennox Lewis sucked as well because Wlad and Lewis have a very similar style....Wlad is top ten in knockout percentage of active fighters.....You must be one of those people that enjoyed when Ruiz and Byrd were champions.....
    You must of missed the dullest fight i have ever seen im my entire life against Sultan Ibragimov was voted worst fight of the year and his action packed fight against Tony Thompson.
    You must have missed Ibragimov fighting Shannon Briggs then. You can't make a fight engaging if you have an opponent who stays way on the outside. That fight was boring because of Ibragimov, not Klitschko.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killface View Post
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    Least Crowd Pleasing style?? Have you watched any of Wlad's fights? So Lennox Lewis sucked as well because Wlad and Lewis have a very similar style....Wlad is top ten in knockout percentage of active fighters.....You must be one of those people that enjoyed when Ruiz and Byrd were champions.....
    You must of missed the dullest fight i have ever seen im my entire life against Sultan Ibragimov was voted worst fight of the year and his action packed fight against Tony Thompson.
    You must have missed Ibragimov fighting Shannon Briggs then. You can't make a fight engaging if you have an opponent who stays way on the outside. That fight was boring because of Ibragimov, not Klitschko.
    You can make the fight engaging by engaging the other guy in a fight. Despite being about a foot taller with massive reach advantage (it looked like a middleweight fighting a heavyweight) Klitschko did nothing but jab his way to one of the most boring victories ever. And that's all he ever does in any fight. Occasionally he throws a couple of punches and then holds but every time he fights he sends everybody to sleep. The sooner that fraud retires from boxing the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Wladimir wants to be a crowd pleaser...
    The heavyweight with the least crowd pleasing style in history wants to be a crowd pleaser.
    "least crowd pleasing style in history"? Hyperbole much? I guess you've never sat through the torture that is a John Ruiz fight? Shannon "Asthmatic" Briggs, anyone? I'll grant that Wlad's technical style is not the most exciting out there, but compared to a lot of the current crop of heavys he's practically Arturro Gatti. At least Wlad usually knocks his opponents out after softening them up with his jab.
    Yeah, I should have written the guy recognised as the heavyweight champ rather than heavyweight. There can't have ever been anyone recognised as the man at heavyweight who was more boring to watch than Junior. John Ruiz was rubbish too but nobody ever considered him to be the man at heavyweight. For casual boxing fans and the wider public having a guy like Junior as champ turns them all off watching heavyweight boxing. The only way Vlad ever pleases a crowd is when he retires.

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