Haye Klitschko is falling apart- Talks Suspended

[Kirkland Laing]

There's always two sides of the story

Haye’s trainer and manager Adam Booth is willing to sacrifice home territory in the hope of kick-starting the most important and exciting heavyweight contest in years.

"I want to make this absolutely clear, because unfortunately the KMG manager, Bernd Bonte, seems to be taking things too personally and trying to confuse the issue,” begun Booth. “The one-sided interview he did with biased keyboard warrior Dan Rafael (ESPN.com) – a man who has shown a longstanding dislike for David Haye - has distorted some of the facts.

"David will fight Wladimir anywhere they choose, and give them the two rematch options they have requested.

"In regards to the rematches clause, I am baffled as to why Bonte seems to have forgotten our last conversation about this. We said they could have the two rematches they wanted, which effectively means David’s next three fights could be in Germany against either Wladimir or Vitali Klitschko.

"What they’re also demanding is that if David were to win against Wladimir and then have a mandatory challenger obligation (non-Klitschko) he would have to immediately vacate the title he won from Wladimir. This would mean David could win three fights against the Klitschko brothers and still not be in a position to officially call himself heavyweight champion of the world at the end of it."

Booth continued: "They (the Klitschkos) would make exactly the same money in Germany as they would in England because we have dropped our figure to go to Germany. If they take a proposed fight with Chris Arreola, they will make substantially less. So people can now work this out for themselves



Boxing: Hayemaker statement on Wlad impasse | Setanta

It looks like they're both bottling Haye. Who'd have thought it?

[Lance Uppercut]

Klitschko-Haye talks suspended! | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7

According to the Ukrainian language section of klitschko.com, Wladimir Klitschko has decided to stop negotiations with David Haye. He says the main problem has been a lack of professionalism on the part of Haye and his representatives. Wlad says Haye can’t decide on his demands. “If Haye continues in the same spirit, it will be two more years before he get a chance to reach a championship fight.” In the event the fight with Haye is not resurrected, Wlad plans “to face Chris Arreola or find someone else. This will be determined later.”

[Lance Uppercut]

Dan Rafael's Reply to Adam Booth(from his recent blog)

"I saw some quotes from David Haye manager/trainer Adam Booth this week in which he referred to me as a "biased keyboard warrior," a response to my comments in last week's blog about his pathetic negotiating skills with regard to a proposed fight for Haye against heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko this summer. I don't think it's bias to expose someone who spends a lot of time boasting about fights he supposedly wants to make, then manages the negotiations like a hand grenade. Put it this way: As a manager, well, Booth is a hell of a trainer. He makes Nacho Beristain look like Al Haymon."

[DatsiK]

Adam Booth called him a keyboard warrior? Classic.

I wish journalists would stop being so fucking stupid. How is Haye greedy? He cant seriously expect Haye to take a much smaller split than Wlad is... sure Wlad is the champion, but Haye will bring a large amount to the table with his UK fan base. What is Wlad bringing? He has never done good PPV numbers.. infact Haye is probably the main selling point of this fight, people are curious about him.. he's a young, hungry fighter who alot of people are predicting to knock Wlad out, this kind of buzz hasen't been in the division for a few years at least.

The odd thing is the brothers are demanding a rematch clause for both of the brothers - they must be scared of Haye sparking them out to stall negotiations over that?

[Hunter]

You cant blame Wlad's team for this falling apart....Haye and his merry band of idiots drew up the original contract with the fight taking place in the stadium in the UK, just when it was time to put money down Haye's team backed out because they realized Haye was NOT hatton or calzaghe.......Now they want to redo a deal and have Wlad's team pick a place in Germany.....In preparation for the fight Haye probably started watching tapes on Wlad and realized he has no chance to beat him and told his managers to Get out of it any way you can!! haha

[Violent Demise]

Adam Booth called him a keyboard warrior? Classic.

I wish journalists would stop being so fucking stupid. How is Haye greedy? He cant seriously expect Haye to take a much smaller split than Wlad is... sure Wlad is the champion, but Haye will bring a large amount to the table with his UK fan base. What is Wlad bringing? He has never done good PPV numbers.. infact Haye is probably the main selling point of this fight, people are curious about him.. he's a young, hungry fighter who alot of people are predicting to knock Wlad out, this kind of buzz hasen't been in the division for a few years at least.

The odd thing is the brothers are demanding a rematch clause for both of the brothers - they must be scared of Haye sparking them out to stall negotiations over that?

Haye deserves the smaller split. He's not the champion. He hasn't even proven he's a contender in the Heavyweight division. You say Wlad has never done good PPV numbers. That's cuz he's never headlined a PPV. LOL. What are Haye's numbers? Are they any better?

[rjj tszyu]

I still think this fight will happen. It's probably just Wlads team frightening Hayes into being more professional about things.

[Kirkland Laing]

I still think this fight will happen. It's probably just Wlads team frightening Hayes into being more professional about things.

Haye is offering to fight for British TV money only as his purse. If the Klitschkos were serious they'd snap his hand off. The fight may still happen but right now it sounds like the klitschko negotiating team are just throwing up a bunch of excuses and running away.

[DatsiK]

Adam Booth called him a keyboard warrior? Classic.

I wish journalists would stop being so fucking stupid. How is Haye greedy? He cant seriously expect Haye to take a much smaller split than Wlad is... sure Wlad is the champion, but Haye will bring a large amount to the table with his UK fan base. What is Wlad bringing? He has never done good PPV numbers.. infact Haye is probably the main selling point of this fight, people are curious about him.. he's a young, hungry fighter who alot of people are predicting to knock Wlad out, this kind of buzz hasen't been in the division for a few years at least.

The odd thing is the brothers are demanding a rematch clause for both of the brothers - they must be scared of Haye sparking them out to stall negotiations over that?

Haye deserves the smaller split. He's not the champion. He hasn't even proven he's a contender in the Heavyweight division. You say Wlad has never done good PPV numbers. That's cuz he's never headlined a PPV. LOL. What are Haye's numbers? Are they any better?

Hey I didn't say Haye should recieve a equal split, but it shouldn't be a drastically smaller split.. it should be around 60 - 40 maybe. Haye will undoutably bring a fair share to the table with PPV's with the sheer interest he is bringing to his name.

[Violent Demise]

Adam Booth called him a keyboard warrior? Classic.

I wish journalists would stop being so fucking stupid. How is Haye greedy? He cant seriously expect Haye to take a much smaller split than Wlad is... sure Wlad is the champion, but Haye will bring a large amount to the table with his UK fan base. What is Wlad bringing? He has never done good PPV numbers.. infact Haye is probably the main selling point of this fight, people are curious about him.. he's a young, hungry fighter who alot of people are predicting to knock Wlad out, this kind of buzz hasen't been in the division for a few years at least.

The odd thing is the brothers are demanding a rematch clause for both of the brothers - they must be scared of Haye sparking them out to stall negotiations over that?

Haye deserves the smaller split. He's not the champion. He hasn't even proven he's a contender in the Heavyweight division. You say Wlad has never done good PPV numbers. That's cuz he's never headlined a PPV. LOL. What are Haye's numbers? Are they any better?

Hey I didn't say Haye should recieve a equal split, but it shouldn't be a drastically smaller split.. it should be around 60 - 40 maybe. Haye will undoutably bring a fair share to the table with PPV's with the sheer interest he is bringing to his name.

I say 75-25 is more fair. All this talk of Haye being a big draw is just that. Talk. If he has such a big following why he only draw 6,000 for his fight with Barrett? It's obvious Haye is not the big draw people claim he is.

[ClubberLang]

Adam Booth called him a keyboard warrior? Classic.

I wish journalists would stop being so fucking stupid. How is Haye greedy? He cant seriously expect Haye to take a much smaller split than Wlad is... sure Wlad is the champion, but Haye will bring a large amount to the table with his UK fan base. What is Wlad bringing? He has never done good PPV numbers.. infact Haye is probably the main selling point of this fight, people are curious about him.. he's a young, hungry fighter who alot of people are predicting to knock Wlad out, this kind of buzz hasen't been in the division for a few years at least.

The odd thing is the brothers are demanding a rematch clause for both of the brothers - they must be scared of Haye sparking them out to stall negotiations over that?

Haye deserves the smaller split. He's not the champion. He hasn't even proven he's a contender in the Heavyweight division. You say Wlad has never done good PPV numbers. That's cuz he's never headlined a PPV. LOL. What are Haye's numbers? Are they any better?

Wlad is the FAR more economically viable fighter than Haye. He brings more TV money by virtue of being a regular HBO fighter (in contrast to Haye, who has only appeared once on Showtime and never on HBO--he's a virtual unknown in the US). And his gate draw is overrated as they had a lot of empty seats for his fight against Barrett. That would never happen at a Wlad fight in Germany regardless of opponent. Haye deserves SIGNIFICANTLY less of the split. If he wants more, he needs to get on the major networks and impress the people against legit heavyweight contenders, thus creating more interest in himself and the fight. He won't do that though because he knows the first legit heavy to tag him on the chin will put him to sleep.

[JazMerkin]

Dan Rafael's Reply to Adam Booth(from his recent blog)

"I saw some quotes from David Haye manager/trainer Adam Booth this week in which he referred to me as a "biased keyboard warrior," a response to my comments in last week's blog about his pathetic negotiating skills with regard to a proposed fight for Haye against heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko this summer. I don't think it's bias to expose someone who spends a lot of time boasting about fights he supposedly wants to make, then manages the negotiations like a hand grenade. Put it this way: As a manager, well, Booth is a hell of a trainer. He makes Nacho Beristain look like Al Haymon."

Dan Rafael only bothered to get Wlad's side of the story & wonders why he gets called a 'biased keyboard warrior'. He needs to get off Boenthe's dick, its embarassing. Whether or not Haye is taking the piss, a decent journalist would make the effort to get both sides' piece of the story, at least as so not to be so blatantly Team Klitschko's bitch

[Lance Uppercut]

Dan Rafael's Reply to Adam Booth(from his recent blog)

"I saw some quotes from David Haye manager/trainer Adam Booth this week in which he referred to me as a "biased keyboard warrior," a response to my comments in last week's blog about his pathetic negotiating skills with regard to a proposed fight for Haye against heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko this summer. I don't think it's bias to expose someone who spends a lot of time boasting about fights he supposedly wants to make, then manages the negotiations like a hand grenade. Put it this way: As a manager, well, Booth is a hell of a trainer. He makes Nacho Beristain look like Al Haymon."

Dan Rafael only bothered to get Wlad's side of the story & wonders why he gets called a 'biased keyboard warrior'. He needs to get off Boenthe's dick, its embarassing. Whether or not Haye is taking the piss, a decent journalist would make the effort to get both sides' piece of the story, at least as so not to be so blatantly Team Klitschko's bitch

I dont really think there is two sides to this argument. One fighter is Unified Heavyweight Champion of the world, the other has fought 6 rounds as a heavyweight. Haye really should not be getting greedy.

[JazMerkin]

Dan Rafael's Reply to Adam Booth(from his recent blog)

"I saw some quotes from David Haye manager/trainer Adam Booth this week in which he referred to me as a "biased keyboard warrior," a response to my comments in last week's blog about his pathetic negotiating skills with regard to a proposed fight for Haye against heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko this summer. I don't think it's bias to expose someone who spends a lot of time boasting about fights he supposedly wants to make, then manages the negotiations like a hand grenade. Put it this way: As a manager, well, Booth is a hell of a trainer. He makes Nacho Beristain look like Al Haymon."

Dan Rafael only bothered to get Wlad's side of the story & wonders why he gets called a 'biased keyboard warrior'. He needs to get off Boenthe's dick, its embarassing. Whether or not Haye is taking the piss, a decent journalist would make the effort to get both sides' piece of the story, at least as so not to be so blatantly Team Klitschko's bitch

I dont really think there is two sides to this argument. One fighter is Unified Heavyweight Champion of the world, the other has fought 6 rounds as a heavyweight. Haye really should not be getting greedy.

There's always 2 sides, & there are few key inaccuracies in what Boenthe says that I pointed out earlier in the thread that mean that his article was bollocks. Also it is true that Haye is no Hatton or Calzaghe in terms of numbers he'd bring to a PPV, but he brings a lot more than Calzaghe did at that stage of his career in viewing numbers, & the amount his profile has risen over the past year, means that he would bring a lot more in now. Take Booth's side of the story into account additionally, & it stops seeming like its just Hayemaker who're taking the piss. The rematches clause makes it seem like at the least its not just Hayemaker 'running scared'

[El Kabong]

If anyone is biased it's the Haye fans.....what does Haye bring that Cris Arreola doesn't?

If the Haye camp thinks that they are in a position of power they are sorely mistaken. Cris Arreola has a decent fan base, Arreola is UNDEFEATED, Arreola is experienced at heavyweight, and Arreola will fight in the US where I am sure there will be more money.

Wladimir has options....and before you Brits get all upset and think that Haye is being ducked get back to reality, he beat Monte Barrett AND Haye got knocked down in the process.