Haye Klitschko is falling apart- Talks Suspended

[Lance Uppercut]

Dan Rafael's Reply to Adam Booth(from his recent blog)

"I saw some quotes from David Haye manager/trainer Adam Booth this week in which he referred to me as a "biased keyboard warrior," a response to my comments in last week's blog about his pathetic negotiating skills with regard to a proposed fight for Haye against heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko this summer. I don't think it's bias to expose someone who spends a lot of time boasting about fights he supposedly wants to make, then manages the negotiations like a hand grenade. Put it this way: As a manager, well, Booth is a hell of a trainer. He makes Nacho Beristain look like Al Haymon."

Dan Rafael only bothered to get Wlad's side of the story & wonders why he gets called a 'biased keyboard warrior'. He needs to get off Boenthe's dick, its embarassing. Whether or not Haye is taking the piss, a decent journalist would make the effort to get both sides' piece of the story, at least as so not to be so blatantly Team Klitschko's bitch

I dont really think there is two sides to this argument. One fighter is Unified Heavyweight Champion of the world, the other has fought 6 rounds as a heavyweight. Haye really should not be getting greedy.

[JazMerkin]

Dan Rafael's Reply to Adam Booth(from his recent blog)

"I saw some quotes from David Haye manager/trainer Adam Booth this week in which he referred to me as a "biased keyboard warrior," a response to my comments in last week's blog about his pathetic negotiating skills with regard to a proposed fight for Haye against heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko this summer. I don't think it's bias to expose someone who spends a lot of time boasting about fights he supposedly wants to make, then manages the negotiations like a hand grenade. Put it this way: As a manager, well, Booth is a hell of a trainer. He makes Nacho Beristain look like Al Haymon."

Dan Rafael only bothered to get Wlad's side of the story & wonders why he gets called a 'biased keyboard warrior'. He needs to get off Boenthe's dick, its embarassing. Whether or not Haye is taking the piss, a decent journalist would make the effort to get both sides' piece of the story, at least as so not to be so blatantly Team Klitschko's bitch

I dont really think there is two sides to this argument. One fighter is Unified Heavyweight Champion of the world, the other has fought 6 rounds as a heavyweight. Haye really should not be getting greedy.

There's always 2 sides, & there are few key inaccuracies in what Boenthe says that I pointed out earlier in the thread that mean that his article was bollocks. Also it is true that Haye is no Hatton or Calzaghe in terms of numbers he'd bring to a PPV, but he brings a lot more than Calzaghe did at that stage of his career in viewing numbers, & the amount his profile has risen over the past year, means that he would bring a lot more in now. Take Booth's side of the story into account additionally, & it stops seeming like its just Hayemaker who're taking the piss. The rematches clause makes it seem like at the least its not just Hayemaker 'running scared'

[El Kabong]

If anyone is biased it's the Haye fans.....what does Haye bring that Cris Arreola doesn't?

If the Haye camp thinks that they are in a position of power they are sorely mistaken. Cris Arreola has a decent fan base, Arreola is UNDEFEATED, Arreola is experienced at heavyweight, and Arreola will fight in the US where I am sure there will be more money.

Wladimir has options....and before you Brits get all upset and think that Haye is being ducked get back to reality, he beat Monte Barrett AND Haye got knocked down in the process.

[Fenster]

If anyone is biased it's the Haye fans.....what does Haye bring that Cris Arreola doesn't?

If the Haye camp thinks that they are in a position of power they are sorely mistaken. Cris Arreola has a decent fan base, Arreola is UNDEFEATED, Arreola is experienced at heavyweight, and Arreola will fight in the US where I am sure there will be more money.

Wladimir has options....and before you Brits get all upset and think that Haye is being ducked get back to reality, he beat Monte Barrett AND Haye got knocked down in the process.

Where are the threads about Arreola vs the Klits? Where's the interest?

Haven't you noticed the hoopla Haye has created?

Arreola is a nobody compared to Haye. No-one will give Arreola a chance against Wlad. At least with Haye, he's created enough interest, shown enough explosive power and enough talent that even his haters can't be certain he wont beat Wlad

[El Kabong]

I'm sure there is intrest about it.....I give Arreola a better shot than Haye, Cris has actually taken a punch at heavyweight. The only reason there are so many Haye threads is because all of you are British and you're in love with the guy

[Fenster]

I'm sure there is intrest about it.....I give Arreola a better shot than Haye, Cris has actually taken a punch at heavyweight. The only reason there are so many Haye threads is because all of you are British and you're in love with the guy

All British? There is more non-Brits here than Brits by miles. There's more Americans than anyone else.

Check out the other sites. Check the American writers.

It's ALL Haye.

The interest in Arreola-Wlad will be MINUTE compared with Haye.

[leftylee]

I'm sure there is intrest about it.....I give Arreola a better shot than Haye, Cris has actually taken a punch at heavyweight. The only reason there are so many Haye threads is because all of you are British and you're in love with the guy

Lyle, you have NEVER given a good description why you dislike David Haye, nor why he isn't a lift for the heavyweight division.

Please could you care to explain your reasons ?

[Lance Uppercut]

If anyone is biased it's the Haye fans.....what does Haye bring that Cris Arreola doesn't?

If the Haye camp thinks that they are in a position of power they are sorely mistaken. Cris Arreola has a decent fan base, Arreola is UNDEFEATED, Arreola is experienced at heavyweight, and Arreola will fight in the US where I am sure there will be more money.

Wladimir has options....and before you Brits get all upset and think that Haye is being ducked get back to reality, he beat Monte Barrett AND Haye got knocked down in the process.

Where are the threads about Arreola vs the Klits? Where's the interest?

Haven't you noticed the hoopla Haye has created?

Arreola is a nobody compared to Haye. No-one will give Arreola a chance against Wlad. At least with Haye, he's created enough interest, shown enough explosive power and enough talent that even his haters can't be certain he wont beat Wlad

I would love to see Arrola take the fight. He's American, he loves to mix it up, and he's got heart. Arreola is much bigger then Haye in the US. He bring a big meixcan following on the West cost.

[Fenster]

If anyone is biased it's the Haye fans.....what does Haye bring that Cris Arreola doesn't?

If the Haye camp thinks that they are in a position of power they are sorely mistaken. Cris Arreola has a decent fan base, Arreola is UNDEFEATED, Arreola is experienced at heavyweight, and Arreola will fight in the US where I am sure there will be more money.

Wladimir has options....and before you Brits get all upset and think that Haye is being ducked get back to reality, he beat Monte Barrett AND Haye got knocked down in the process.

Where are the threads about Arreola vs the Klits? Where's the interest?

Haven't you noticed the hoopla Haye has created?

Arreola is a nobody compared to Haye. No-one will give Arreola a chance against Wlad. At least with Haye, he's created enough interest, shown enough explosive power and enough talent that even his haters can't be certain he wont beat Wlad

I would love to see Arrola take the fight. He's American, he loves to mix it up, and he's got heart. Arreola is much bigger then Haye in the US. He bring a big meixcan following on the West cost.

Is Arreola really that much bigger than Haye in the States? I've read he's not very big at all.

There certainly isn't the interest about him on the boxing sites compared with Haye (from what i've seen, although maybe i've not took enough notice). No-one gives him a chance against either Klit.

[Kirkland Laing]

Klitschko has two options, Haye or Arreola. If he fights Arreola he gets the gate, HBO money and German TV money. UK TV money would be a few thousand quid only. But he has to pay Arreola 20-25% of that. If he fights Haye he gets to keep 100% of that, Haye just taking the UK TV money. So it's obvious that he's bottling fighting Haye. Haye is the bigger profile fight and the bigger money and Klitschko Junior is hurriedly following in Senior's footsteps by running away from fighting Haye. You really have to wonder at those two giant lumps being scared to fight a chinny cruiser, don't you?