De La Hoya on Pacquiao defeat: 'I was embarassed'

[JazMerkin]

I think he comes out of that very well, very honest, & doesn't try to gloss it over & blame others. Surprised that he gave such a deep interview on it, but credit to him for that.

Well, I'm guessing the Pac-fans will mob this thread now

[Wayne]

I think he comes out of that very well, very honest, & doesn't try to gloss it over & blame others. Surprised that he gave such a deep interview on it, but credit to him for that.

Well, I'm guessing the Pac-fans will mob this thread now

There's a little bit of the boxer's bravado there. He doesn't attribute anything to what Manny did right, but rather what he did wrong. The truth is Oscar may have been in trouble even if his game may have been off. He said Manny grunted from a left hook in the first? Then why was Manny a punching machine throughout the fight? I'll buy Oscar's weight being an issue, but that is only half the equation. Manny was severely underestimated.

[Kev]

I dunno the article was ok, nothing wrong in what he said but I still sense the narcisissim and self importance of the man. He just comes across to me as a man who simply loves to talk about himself.

He'll go into great depths and be very outwardly humble and even agree with Freddie in that 'I can't pull the trigger any more' but he explains things in such a ways as to assume we will all go 'Ah the great Oscar, see how humble and dignified he is.......'

It honestly wouldn't suprise me much if he actually does own a solid gold halo, custom made with his name engraved on it, and that he polishes and wears at home.

I can picture him in a white toga, obviously with golden thread and stitching, reclining on a lounger by his beautiful indoor pool, halo in place, Millie, lying in a lounger next to him resplendent looking in a beautiful Cleopatra type outfit both with hand servants massaging their feet and feeding them grapes whilst a few disciples recite the from the De La Hoya autobiography: American Son, My Story.

[Gandalf]

I dunno the article was ok, nothing wrong in what he said but I still sense the narcisissim and self importance of the man. He just comes across to me as a man who simply loves to talk about himself.

He'll go into great depths and be very outwardly humble and even agree with Freddie in that 'I can't pull the trigger any more' but he explains things in such a ways as to assume we will all go 'Ah the great Oscar, see how humble and dignified he is.......'

It honestly wouldn't suprise me much if he actually does own a solid gold halo, custom made with his name engraved on it, and that he polishes and wears at home.

I can picture him in a white toga, obviously with golden thread and stitching, reclining on a lounger by his beautiful indoor pool, halo in place, Millie, lying in a lounger next to him resplendent looking in a beautiful Cleopatra type outfit both with hand servants massaging their feet and feeding them grapes whilst a few disciples recite the from the De La Hoya autobiography: American Son, My Story.

Funny stuff, Mr Baggins!

[SigmaMu]

I hope he does not retire and he fights Miguel Cotto.



I wonder how Chino would feel about that fight?

lol

[C-Lo]

Win or Lose, Oscar always shows class. I'll always respect him for that!

[fan johnny]

As far as stepping back into the ring goes... It's like a relationship that just don't fit anymore. He needs 'really get over it!' and move on.... Of course he can play the money game and look for guys in the newly formed senior boxing class but that's another thing. Yea, he's in it for the money, but tell me who wouldn't be...

I for one think that Oscar has earned his place in boxing history and deserves every bit of respect. Even facing further embarrassment he finds the 'smart' thing to do and quit. He has given more to boxing than he realizes and more than others realize as well. When he officially retires, I'm sure there will be an astute writer or boxing historian that will lay out the impact that GPP has made for many fighters. Time will have to pass before we can tell how much of an impact he has made to the evolution of boxing as a sport.

[KananKrus]

Remarkable, he used two months to put into words a justification, as to why his loss to Pacquiao was of no consequence to his inferior talent failing miserably against to those of Pacquiao's, the man who thoroughly beat him.

And, it too is quite remarkable, how just after the beating administered by Pacquiao on him, and despite how badly his bruised lips were, Hoya was able to energetically and with abandon, kiss Pacquiao's ass in the post fight interview with Merchant, if people can still remember the aftermath of the fight.

Boy! The man knows what to say that people want to hear, and he has the skill to do so, cleverly veiled in such a way, it comes out anything but insincere.

The interview is BS. Pure excrementally valued for content.

The man is saying that he quit, not because it was the only way he will walk away from the fight without incurring permanent physical disability from the destruction that his opponent easily inflicted on him. Rather, it was made "for him" by people that cared, albeit unknown to them, that he actually did not care, for the other guy lacked the power to hurt him. This was his message unveiled, unmasked. Pure baloney!

He did not need those two months, because "he" can throw any thought out there in public, in the open and...it will be heard and bought! The skill is remarkable, but not atop the ring!

Anyone will buy it all they want cause Oscar dela Hoya is in their heads anyway, waiting to tell them what they want to hear! Anytime they need to hear it!

[Chino]

I am not surprised by ODLH being that classy. Props for him. Hopes he stays out of the ring now. We'll remember him as one of the guys with the best resume out there who brought us lots of exciting fights and a great boxing style (during his prime).

I hope he does not retire and he fights Miguel Cotto.

I wonder how Chino would feel about that fight?

lol

Dude, you make it seem as if ODLH was my relative. The result didn't surprise me. Remember what I said about the Forbes fight and what could be expected when he was about to face Pac? That's what happens when fighters passed their prime stay in the ring longer than they should. How many times do I have to tell you?

If someone got hurt by a defeat was you and your Cotto. I mean, how many threads have you made about his loss vs Margarito? Threads about how if it wasn't because of his nose he would totally beat Margarito easily and so on. I am yet to start a thread of ODLH's defeat. But if playing around with a picture makes you happy, sure, go for it. It won't erase the fact from what happened to Cotto. Leave Cotto's loss in the past and lets look forward to what awaits Cotto in the future.

[SigmaMu]

[Bx730NY]

I am not surprised by ODLH being that classy. Props for him. Hopes he stays out of the ring now. We'll remember him as one of the guys with the best resume out there who brought us lots of exciting fights and a great boxing style (during his prime).

I hope he does not retire and he fights Miguel Cotto.

I wonder how Chino would feel about that fight?

lol

Dude, you make it seem as if ODLH was my relative. The result didn't surprise me. Remember what I said about the Forbes fight and what could be expected when he was about to face Pac? That's what happens when fighters passed their prime stay in the ring longer than they should. How many times do I have to tell you?

If someone got hurt by a defeat was you and your Cotto. I mean, how many threads have you made about his loss vs Margarito? Threads about how if it wasn't because of his nose he would totally beat Margarito easily and so on. I am yet to start a thread of ODLH's defeat. But if playing around with a picture makes you happy, sure, go for it. It won't erase the fact from what happened to Cotto. Leave Cotto's loss in the past and lets look forward to what awaits Cotto in the future.

Ok Chino. Now we know that you're just as embarassed as dlh. Your idol in womens stockings turned out to be great huh?

[Master]

Good honest interview, ODH should have taken a bigger beating for the fans.

[BoomBoom]

Good honest interview, ODH should have taken a bigger beating for the fans.

You must mean for Pac fans. I dont think any Oscar fan, myself included, wanted to see him take a bigger beating.

[KananKrus]

Pacquiao was hitting line drives and the like, for six or seven rounds, he was not hitting him with haymakers, that is the reason why Hoya did not get KO'ed.

Much like the Diaz fight, a good portion of the early rounds were spent softening the target, that being Hoya. When the time came when the target no longer functioned aggressively to launch an offensive, relegated to a shred of a fighter, one dimensionally defensive, then the second phase kicked in.

The second phase was to batter into submission the soft target with haymakers, whilst it cowers in fear. Submissive to the fullest, the target is like livestock queued and ready for slaughter!

Turns out the Hoya camp need not see the second phase to be convinced of the futility of their endeavor. They've seen it before, they've seen the pattern, and the outcome from their conqueror's previous fight.

Credit to them that they are knowledgable enough to take their lumps, pack up, and fight another day!

Is it not, that that was what happened?

To say that the guy punches without power is to equally suggest, not to give due credit to the man for the win.

It was more his undoing than Pacquiao's doing.

Isn't it hypocritical, for right after the fight in the Merchant interview, he heaved all the praises at Pac, said all the right things, overdone to the point where it became uncomfortable to the later, only to come out two months after, stating that Pac couldn't punch.

Totally discrediting Pacquiao, and likewise, totally discrediting the victor.

In this scenario alone, all the others not in question, is Hoya a hypocrite? Guilty! Death by a thousand left straights!

[ross]

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