Well your talking my talk here Hanlon. I was trained to 7th level in it.

Your a respectful poster who hasnt jumped in here with claims that it will rule etc and thats to be commended.

WC has two different schools mine was through William Cheung (not popular with other Wc masters because he claims to teach the lengthened footwork style with entry techniques so that your safe bridgeing the gap comming i and retreating etc.
It wil pay to keep your open mind and dont buy into the two different stylea of wing chuns ongoing war.

Many of the styles you will notice are quite stagnent in their footwork which holds the figters down to the practice of chi sao nose to nose style of fighting for many years,based in the shil lim tao, I belive some of these styles would teach the bridging the gap techniques later once the practitioners reach the Chum kill form and the final thrusting fingers form also seems to open up the footwork a bit.

If you can get to view any of the advanced forms from William and his brother David Cheungs style you will see many benifits from them.

They claim that when william and bruce Lee were learning from Yip mans father the son and the elders then training in hing kong were jealous of Bruces speed in learning and his natural skills. They asked Yip man senior to ban him from learning wing chun because he was only half cast andit shouldnt be taught to forieners. They said if he didnt expell him they would all walk away. Yip man senoir decided to teach William Cheung all the secret footwork to wing chun andsaid to him to teach Bruce everything he taught him in private .

When you look hard at jeet kune do and look hard at William and Davids more free style of Wing Chun you can see for yourself that some others lack a certain freedom in movment although they are good nose to nose fighters they have trouble with large fast angles.


Have a look around anyway,keep your mouth closed cause leaders still have a giant ego (which they shouldnt at that level) many still fight nasty over who owns what in their style.

It is definatley split and I think the proof is in the technique.

we once got our fellows to match up against a set of boxers noone actually came out the better but it made our crew realise that western boxing stands alone in its own ring with its own rules.
Its a great training proceedure to jump in with them but dont expect to win any way other by points. You'd have a hard job knocking out a boxer with wing chun punches.
Then again out of the ring we dont fight with clenched hands so we outreach them and go for the very softest targets first and knee stomps if clenched etc...

Mma still doenst allow knee breaks ,eye gouges , ball rips etc so I have my doubts it would stay in with those fellows either.
Best bet for me is the Thai styles in mma and the Ju jitsu or ground work styles guys for in the octagon.

there are some thingsfrom WC that work in boxing though but only in some situations,you can see boxers use some of the techniques naturally when in a spot of bother, their reactions take over and their arm automaticallycan go elbow up when they are caught in some situations.(like bon soa or the wing arm) I'd love to see them turn that over on contact and walk through and out the same side .That would be so easy to do at times and would have the commentators sitting in silence for a second or two.

And some use the jab like a feeler to measure distance and when someone tries to come around that feeler on the outside of the arm they naturally face the point of contact with it, so opening up the oppositions centre line and removing one of the oppositions arms out of the equasion at the same time.
There are more too if you watch close.