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    Default Re: Haye willing to fight Wlad in Germany

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    All posturing aside...do you HONESTLY believe that Wlad is afraid to fight Haye? C'mon now. What has Haye done to make him afraid? Who has Haye beaten that should make Wlad go, "Uh oh, I don't want to fight that guy!" He's fought two fights in the division. He got rocked by a limited fighter in Barrett. He routinely got rocked at crusierweight. Why in the world would Wlad be afraid to fight this guy? Why would he even try to make the fight in the first place? He could have easily enough said, "Haye has not done enough to deserve the shot, he needs to get in line" and he would have been 100% correct. But he is trying to make the fight anyway because it's an interesting challenge rather than fighting another mandatory. And, please note, I don't think Haye is afraid of Wlad either, I just think he thinks he's a bigger star than he is and is making unrealistic demands.
    Yes I do. vlad's fights scared these days because he knows how fragile his chin is and he fights knowing one punch can bring back Corrie Sanders nightmares. Fighting somebody who can move faster than him who can also punch is his worst nightmare. Much easier to fight a big tub of lard who can't move fast enough to hit him.
    Simple question for you. No essay required. Just a simple yes or no. Do you think Haye has earned his shot to fight for the championship?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    Yes I do. vlad's fights scared these days because he knows how fragile his chin is and he fights knowing one punch can bring back Corrie Sanders nightmares. Fighting somebody who can move faster than him who can also punch is his worst nightmare. Much easier to fight a big tub of lard who can't move fast enough to hit him.
    Simple question for you. No essay required. Just a simple yes or no. Do you think Haye has earned his shot to fight for the championship?
    Yes.
    You must of thought very highly of Barrett and Bonin.

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    Default Re: Haye willing to fight Wlad in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
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    Simple question for you. No essay required. Just a simple yes or no. Do you think Haye has earned his shot to fight for the championship?
    Yes.
    You must of thought very highly of Barrett and Bonin.
    No and I don't think very highly of Cliff Couser either but that's who Tony Thompson beat before he got his fight with Vlad. The rest of Thompson's record is littered with equally wonderful names.

    The fact is that the heavyweight division is rubbish. There's nobody at heavyweight that I want to see fight including wither of the Klitschkos. If I have to watch them fight I've seen them in with enough big fat bastards with the mobility of the Statue of liberty to last me a lifetime. Unfortunately that kind of fighter appears to be the only option at heavyweight to challenge them so instead of yet another big fat useless bastard I'd prefer to see a chinny cruiser who has speed and a punch have a go.

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    Dan Rafael reported in his chat friday that Adam Booth Acknowledges that he royally screwed up the negotiations and has turned them over to Haye's American Promotor, Goldenboy. Richard Shaffer is talking to Wlad and trying to undo what Booth has done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    Yes.
    You must of thought very highly of Barrett and Bonin.
    No and I don't think very highly of Cliff Couser either but that's who Tony Thompson beat before he got his fight with Vlad. The rest of Thompson's record is littered with equally wonderful names.

    The fact is that the heavyweight division is rubbish. There's nobody at heavyweight that I want to see fight including wither of the Klitschkos. If I have to watch them fight I've seen them in with enough big fat bastards with the mobility of the Statue of liberty to last me a lifetime. Unfortunately that kind of fighter appears to be the only option at heavyweight to challenge them so instead of yet another big fat useless bastard I'd prefer to see a chinny cruiser who has speed and a punch have a go.
    Thompson at least paid his dues and climbed up the rankings little by little. He wasn't totally unworthy. Haye has pretty much gotten his shot by running his mouth. That impresses you? If you think about it, this will turn into a meaningless fight. Right now it has meaning and intrigue cuz Haye has managed to delude a bunch of foolish people into thinking he has a chance. To be fair those peoples Boxing knowledge is poor to begin with, so I can't really hold it against them. But in reality once Wlad stretchers Haye early all you will hear and read is Wlad beat up a smaller fighter with no jaw and poor stamina. The win will quickly be dismiss. And in the long run it will mean little. It will be come meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
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    You must of thought very highly of Barrett and Bonin.
    No and I don't think very highly of Cliff Couser either but that's who Tony Thompson beat before he got his fight with Vlad. The rest of Thompson's record is littered with equally wonderful names.

    The fact is that the heavyweight division is rubbish. There's nobody at heavyweight that I want to see fight including wither of the Klitschkos. If I have to watch them fight I've seen them in with enough big fat bastards with the mobility of the Statue of liberty to last me a lifetime. Unfortunately that kind of fighter appears to be the only option at heavyweight to challenge them so instead of yet another big fat useless bastard I'd prefer to see a chinny cruiser who has speed and a punch have a go.
    Thompson at least paid his dues and climbed up the rankings little by little. He wasn't totally unworthy. Haye has pretty much gotten his shot by running his mouth. That impresses you? If you think about it, this will turn into a meaningless fight. Right now it has meaning and intrigue cuz Haye has managed to delude a bunch of foolish people into thinking he has a chance. To be fair those peoples Boxing knowledge is poor to begin with, so I can't really hold it against them. But in reality once Wlad stretchers Haye early all you will hear and read is Wlad beat up a smaller fighter with no jaw and poor stamina. The win will quickly be dismiss. And in the long run it will mean little. It will be come meaningless.
    I don't see any current heavyweight having a better chance than Haye. I'd like to see Junior fight somebody who's faster than he is. Somebody with speed and athleticism who can punch. I don't see anybody remotely like that at heavyweight so the next best thing is Haye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
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    No and I don't think very highly of Cliff Couser either but that's who Tony Thompson beat before he got his fight with Vlad. The rest of Thompson's record is littered with equally wonderful names.

    The fact is that the heavyweight division is rubbish. There's nobody at heavyweight that I want to see fight including wither of the Klitschkos. If I have to watch them fight I've seen them in with enough big fat bastards with the mobility of the Statue of liberty to last me a lifetime. Unfortunately that kind of fighter appears to be the only option at heavyweight to challenge them so instead of yet another big fat useless bastard I'd prefer to see a chinny cruiser who has speed and a punch have a go.
    Thompson at least paid his dues and climbed up the rankings little by little. He wasn't totally unworthy. Haye has pretty much gotten his shot by running his mouth. That impresses you? If you think about it, this will turn into a meaningless fight. Right now it has meaning and intrigue cuz Haye has managed to delude a bunch of foolish people into thinking he has a chance. To be fair those peoples Boxing knowledge is poor to begin with, so I can't really hold it against them. But in reality once Wlad stretchers Haye early all you will hear and read is Wlad beat up a smaller fighter with no jaw and poor stamina. The win will quickly be dismiss. And in the long run it will mean little. It will be come meaningless.
    I don't see any current heavyweight having a better chance than Haye. I'd like to see Junior fight somebody who's faster than he is. Somebody with speed and athleticism who can punch. I don't see anybody remotely like that at heavyweight so the next best thing is Haye.
    Do you know when Shannon Briggs first came up he was considered a great athlete who could punch and had great speed? Those traits ain't enough to give Haye a title shot. If that's what you look for than why not give recent Chris Arreola victim Travis Walker a title shot? Walker is a great athlete. Has very good power. And is faster than Wlad. Not to mention the fact that he makes for exciting fights. Why not him? I'll tell you why not. Cuz like Haye he doesn't derseve one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    Thompson at least paid his dues and climbed up the rankings little by little. He wasn't totally unworthy. Haye has pretty much gotten his shot by running his mouth. That impresses you? If you think about it, this will turn into a meaningless fight. Right now it has meaning and intrigue cuz Haye has managed to delude a bunch of foolish people into thinking he has a chance. To be fair those peoples Boxing knowledge is poor to begin with, so I can't really hold it against them. But in reality once Wlad stretchers Haye early all you will hear and read is Wlad beat up a smaller fighter with no jaw and poor stamina. The win will quickly be dismiss. And in the long run it will mean little. It will be come meaningless.
    I don't see any current heavyweight having a better chance than Haye. I'd like to see Junior fight somebody who's faster than he is. Somebody with speed and athleticism who can punch. I don't see anybody remotely like that at heavyweight so the next best thing is Haye.
    Do you know when Shannon Briggs first came up he was considered a great athlete who could punch and had great speed? Those traits ain't enough to give Haye a title shot. If that's what you look for than why not give recent Chris Arreola victim Travis Walker a title shot? Walker is a great athlete. Has very good power. And is faster than Wlad. Not to mention the fact that he makes for exciting fights. Why not him? I'll tell you why not. Cuz like Haye he doesn't derseve one.
    I don't think much of Arreola or Walker. I think Haye beats both easily. I don't think there's anybody out there who is miles ahead of haye in terms of getting a title fight.

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