Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?

[C-Lo]

I think so!

Cotto did exactly what he was supposed to do, knock Jennings out and in a great fashion. Being able to switch from a disciplined boxer and then out of nowhere turn into a beast is his what impresses me the most. His counter jab was on point and he cut off the ring with ease.

Rubio was "supposedly" a live underdog but Pavlik dominated quite easily. Being that Rubio walked into the ropes the entire fight, Pavlik should've laid him out within a couple of rounds. Pavlik threw a couple more body shots than I'm used to seeing him throw but other than that, he's still the same fighter.

I think both men put on performances needed to get their confidence back up but Cotto's was way more impressive.

[Deanrw]

I thought Cotto looked great practically every round. Sharp when he needed to be and a monster when he smelled blood.

Pavlik looked fantastic in the first round. He was mixing up his punches greatly. Showed good aggressiveness and decent speed(for Pavlik). After the first round though, Rubio kind of went into a deep shell and Pavlik lost his luster. It was more methodical after that and it hard to tell if it was due to Rubio's reluctance or Pavlik being frustrated for his inablility to land flush.

[Chino]

Imagine if, say, a pro baseball team went all the way to the World Series and lost all the games (sweep), do they go out and face college teams to show their fans that they are back?

I was entertained but not impressed .

[:::PSL:::]

I think the Margo scandal somehow boosted Cotto.

I don't know about Pavlik though.

[SweetPea]

Both looked good.

However, we won't really know anything until they're in a tough fight.

[Rantcatrat]

Pavlik:

Pavlik didn't seem improved, but that may be a result of his opponent. He wasn't fighting an opponent who circles and moves, which from the Bernard fight, apparently is the blueprint to beat him. On the other hand, although he was a stepping-stone opponent, Rubio is/was a top ten middleweight. Pavlik dispatched him with ease and given the dearth of talent in the middleweight division, Pavlik will rule it until he can't make weight a few years down the line. Pavlik has an established chin and a lot of pop, but this fight didn't show how he'll handle fighters with the skills to implement the Bhop blueprint.

Cotto:

Like Pavlik, Cotto didn't seem improved either, but again that may be the result of his opponent. Jennings wasn't anywhere near the top ten and wasn't a puncher. Jennings spent most of the time running and didn't touch Cotto's chin enough to persuade me he is back to his pre-Margarito days. Cotto, like Pavlik, looked great doing what he does, but to be sure about where he stands, I would like to see Cotto in the ring with a puncher.

[Tysonbruno]

Both got the win but against who? Rubio and Jennings not really worldclass nevermind ELITE fighters we will know more when they fight a true top ten fighter Like Mosely or Clottey for Cotto and Abraham or even Duddy for Pavlik. See in these kind of fights both will have to use there mental strength and we will find out if they still have it or fall apart.

[TitoFan]

Imagine if, say, a pro baseball team went all the way to the World Series and lost all the games (sweep), do they go out and face college teams to show their fans that they are back?

I was entertained but not impressed .

Oh... so only YOUR favorite fighters are entitled for the common breather after a significant defeat. You're so predictable in your biases, it's almost comical.

[Chino]

Imagine if, say, a pro baseball team went all the way to the World Series and lost all the games (sweep), do they go out and face college teams to show their fans that they are back?

I was entertained but not impressed .

Oh... so only YOUR favorite fighters are entitled for the common breather after a significant defeat. You're so predictable in your biases, it's almost comical.

Nope, I bashed ODLH as well for facing Forbes and LOOKING BAD and he didn't even come from a defeat such as Cotto's and Pavlik's. Does that sound biased?

I think Cotto needed an opponent like Jennings on his first fight back after losing to Margarito. It's like getting back on the horse again after you've been thrown off. Now it's business as usual

Now you are saying that Cotto's victory against a bum shows that he's back in business? And you were saying I was biased.

[TitoFan]

Imagine if, say, a pro baseball team went all the way to the World Series and lost all the games (sweep), do they go out and face college teams to show their fans that they are back?

I was entertained but not impressed .

Oh... so only YOUR favorite fighters are entitled for the common breather after a significant defeat. You're so predictable in your biases, it's almost comical.

Nope, I bashed ODLH as well for facing Forbes and LOOKING BAD and he didn't even come from a defeat such as Cotto's and Pavlik's. Does that sound biased?

Yeah... don't forget. He fought the smaller Forbes, and looked BAD. Then he fought the smaller Pacquiao, and got his A$$ kicked. Notice a trend? What a pitiful end to a career if ever I saw one.

I think Cotto needed an opponent like Jennings on his first fight back after losing to Margarito. It's like getting back on the horse again after you've been thrown off. Now it's business as usual

Now you are saying that Cotto's victory against a bum shows that he's back in business? And you were saying I was biased.

Difference between him and DLH is... Cotto won, and won big. That Jennings was subpar? Absolutely. But Cotto displayed his boxing skills and power and did what was expected. And my saying "it's business as usual" merely means that Cotto can now set his sights on the division's elite once again. Yeah, I can see my bias all over that statement.

[Hoggmeister]

id say that theyve definitley got over their losses. both seem like very strong willed guys.

[ElTerribleMorales]

[quote=TitoFan;693272]

Oh... so only YOUR favorite fighters are entitled for the common breather after a significant defeat. You're so predictable in your biases, it's almost comical.

Nope, I bashed ODLH as well for facing Forbes and LOOKING BAD and he didn't even come from a defeat such as Cotto's and Pavlik's. Does that sound biased?
Yeah... don't forget. He fought the smaller Forbes, and looked BAD. Then he fought the smaller Pacquiao, and got his A$$ kicked. Notice a trend? What a pitiful end to a career if ever I saw one.

you mean just as pitiful as Trinidad's? going straight into retirement after having his ass handed to him in dominant fashion against B-Hop (oh wait sorry he did so after a weak comeback against Cherifi), only to come back out of retirement and beat up on a welterweight, in a middleweight bout, get whooped for 12 lopsided rounds by Wright, run off crying again to daddy and retires again, saying he'll never fight again, only to come back for the 3rd time, and get whooped by an old, shot, and merciful Roy Jones Jr. (watch the fight if you don't know what i'm talking about, Jones let Trinidad finish the fight out of mercy, he could have finished him in the 6th), hell at least De La Hoya came back from his bullshit loss to Trinidad and won multiple legit world titles after his losses, something Trinidad never did do

[eagle]

Imagine if, say, a pro baseball team went all the way to the World Series and lost all the games (sweep), do they go out and face college teams to show their fans that they are back?

I was entertained but not impressed .

Those imaginary baseballers wouldnt have had broken noses, bleeding faces and bruised ribs. They arent risking their career everytime they fight. Stupid comparison.

[mexirican]

both fighters looked strong and pleased both venues. Congrats to Cotto and Pavlik.

[Spicoli]

Two very good comeback fights and boths rebuilding has begun.These were 'showcase' events,Though I actually thought Rubio would have some moments with boxing Pavlik but he was extremely passive from the opening bell and looked very under sized.Pavlik did exactly what he was predicted to do but to me ,he looked mechanical and repetitive down the stretch,especially when you consider he was getting very little resistance in return?Maybe we're all seeing his shortcomings,Imo,more clearly post the Hopkins clinic?Not bagging on the man,You cannot deny his strengh and power but he really looked the exact same with little adaptation.A fight with Abrahams would be awesome.

Had never seen Jennings prior,and he was given a HUGE opportunity against one of the games best today.But clearly,He was brought in for a showcase.It was the Minor leaguer getting the call to pitch in the big leagues for a night.He really was not expected to win the game,just get them through a couple of innings.Game,I believe he did what he could with what he had to offer.He could have stayed on the deck or in the corner,but got up and went on.I think Cotto needs a stern acid test and can fully recoup his status.All speculation and 'shadow' aside,he was defeated in style and endurance with Tony.He needs to sit stronger and commit in harsh combinations...and defiantly stay off of the ropes.Saturday he showed very nice Patients and timed things perfectly.Did not have that swagger....the showing of the right hand he did with Gomez and Tony early,where he seemed almost to comfortable.I think he'll totally rebuild physically and mentally & regain a strap.....his jab is great,left hook is brutal and his closing & cutting off the ring is much improved.A rematch with Mosley seems inevitable.