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    Default Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?

    Imagine if, say, a pro baseball team went all the way to the World Series and lost all the games (sweep), do they go out and face college teams to show their fans that they are back?

    I was entertained but not impressed .
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    Default Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?

    I think the Margo scandal somehow boosted Cotto.

    I don't know about Pavlik though.

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    Default Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?

    Both looked good.

    However, we won't really know anything until they're in a tough fight.

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    Default Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?

    Pavlik:

    Pavlik didn't seem improved, but that may be a result of his opponent. He wasn't fighting an opponent who circles and moves, which from the Bernard fight, apparently is the blueprint to beat him. On the other hand, although he was a stepping-stone opponent, Rubio is/was a top ten middleweight. Pavlik dispatched him with ease and given the dearth of talent in the middleweight division, Pavlik will rule it until he can't make weight a few years down the line. Pavlik has an established chin and a lot of pop, but this fight didn't show how he'll handle fighters with the skills to implement the Bhop blueprint.

    Cotto:

    Like Pavlik, Cotto didn't seem improved either, but again that may be the result of his opponent. Jennings wasn't anywhere near the top ten and wasn't a puncher. Jennings spent most of the time running and didn't touch Cotto's chin enough to persuade me he is back to his pre-Margarito days. Cotto, like Pavlik, looked great doing what he does, but to be sure about where he stands, I would like to see Cotto in the ring with a puncher.

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    Default Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?

    Both got the win but against who? Rubio and Jennings not really worldclass nevermind ELITE fighters we will know more when they fight a true top ten fighter Like Mosely or Clottey for Cotto and Abraham or even Duddy for Pavlik. See in these kind of fights both will have to use there mental strength and we will find out if they still have it or fall apart.

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    Default Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?

    I think its really hard to tell, I haven't seen the Pavlik fight yet, but Cotto was so much superior to his opponent he didn't really have to do anything, I wish he was a little more aggressive, but I think he is trying to work on being a very technical fighter who doesn't have defensive lapses like he did against Margarito.

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    Default Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?

    I think Cotto needed an opponent like Jennings on his first fight back after losing to Margarito. It's like getting back on the horse again after you've been thrown off. Now it's business as usual, and Miguel can concentrate on continuing to hone his skills and go after the other elite fighters at 147.

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    Default Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?

    Both fighters looked the same to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Both got the win but against who? Rubio and Jennings not really worldclass nevermind ELITE fighters we will know more when they fight a true top ten fighter Like Mosely or Clottey for Cotto and Abraham or even Duddy for Pavlik. See in these kind of fights both will have to use there mental strength and we will find out if they still have it or fall apart.
    Duddy? U cant be serious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Both got the win but against who? Rubio and Jennings not really worldclass nevermind ELITE fighters we will know more when they fight a true top ten fighter Like Mosely or Clottey for Cotto and Abraham or even Duddy for Pavlik. See in these kind of fights both will have to use there mental strength and we will find out if they still have it or fall apart.
    Duddy? U cant be serious?
    He is a damn site better than Rubio and will make a fight of it.

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    Both looked good in return confidence builder fights just as they should have,,,,Neither faced a total piece of trash yet neither faced a real dangerous guy...The fights served their purpose...I think both will continue where they left off before the losses
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    I thought Pavlik looked nervous at first but the ten rounds did him good. Still no knee bends though, but he does what he does well. Cotto looked good. I think Arum will go for Duddy against Pavlik next time out andpick a Duddy-level guy for Cotto too before he puts either of them in with really top quality opposition though. If he does risk either one against a top guy it'd be Cotto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Imagine if, say, a pro baseball team went all the way to the World Series and lost all the games (sweep), do they go out and face college teams to show their fans that they are back?

    I was entertained but not impressed .
    Oh... so only YOUR favorite fighters are entitled for the common breather after a significant defeat. You're so predictable in your biases, it's almost comical.


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    Default Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Imagine if, say, a pro baseball team went all the way to the World Series and lost all the games (sweep), do they go out and face college teams to show their fans that they are back?

    I was entertained but not impressed .
    Oh... so only YOUR favorite fighters are entitled for the common breather after a significant defeat. You're so predictable in your biases, it's almost comical.

    Nope, I bashed ODLH as well for facing Forbes and LOOKING BAD and he didn't even come from a defeat such as Cotto's and Pavlik's. Does that sound biased?

    I think Cotto needed an opponent like Jennings on his first fight back after losing to Margarito. It's like getting back on the horse again after you've been thrown off. Now it's business as usual

    Now you are saying that Cotto's victory against a bum shows that he's back in business? And you were saying I was biased.
    Last edited by Chino; 02-24-2009 at 06:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Imagine if, say, a pro baseball team went all the way to the World Series and lost all the games (sweep), do they go out and face college teams to show their fans that they are back?

    I was entertained but not impressed .
    Oh... so only YOUR favorite fighters are entitled for the common breather after a significant defeat. You're so predictable in your biases, it's almost comical.

    Nope, I bashed ODLH as well for facing Forbes and LOOKING BAD and he didn't even come from a defeat such as Cotto's and Pavlik's. Does that sound biased?

    Yeah... don't forget. He fought the smaller Forbes, and looked BAD. Then he fought the smaller Pacquiao, and got his A$$ kicked. Notice a trend? What a pitiful end to a career if ever I saw one.

    I think Cotto needed an opponent like Jennings on his first fight back after losing to Margarito. It's like getting back on the horse again after you've been thrown off. Now it's business as usual

    Now you are saying that Cotto's victory against a bum shows that he's back in business? And you were saying I was biased.
    Difference between him and DLH is... Cotto won, and won big. That Jennings was subpar? Absolutely. But Cotto displayed his boxing skills and power and did what was expected. And my saying "it's business as usual" merely means that Cotto can now set his sights on the division's elite once again. Yeah, I can see my bias all over that statement.


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