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    Default Re: Fighters who skip the downward slope!

    Margarito should be the freshest in our minds.

    Nobuo Nashiro wins the title vs. Castillo then loses to Munoz. (To be fair Nobuo had no business wining the title in the 1st place)
    Buster Douglas beats Mike then nothing after that.
    Foreman blasted Norton in 2, then that same year Ali did a number on him.
    Joachime Alcine looks really good vs. Simms then get's blasted by Santos.
    Paul Williams beats Margarito then goes on to loose to CQuintana.

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    Default Re: Fighters who skip the downward slope!

    I'd say Kassim Ouma definately fits this bill, he looked phenomenally exciting, he moved up to fight Taylor, and he lost so we figured he was just too small to be effective, but when he came back down and got outworked by K9, something had definately changed his output wasn't even half of what it usually was against an opponent that he could land double his normal workrate against.

    Mike Oliver too, he went from really slick to getting caught in his coming out fight against Lopez to looking like a fish out of water flopping out of control.
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    Default Re: Fighters who skip the downward slope!

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Margarito should be the freshest in our minds.

    Nobuo Nashiro wins the title vs. Castillo then loses to Munoz. (To be fair Nobuo had no business wining the title in the 1st place)
    Buster Douglas beats Mike then nothing after that.
    Foreman blasted Norton in 2, then that same year Ali did a number on him.
    Joachime Alcine looks really good vs. Simms then get's blasted by Santos.
    Paul Williams beats Margarito then goes on to loose to CQuintana.
    Yeah, Foreman looked like a klutz against Ali.

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    Default Re: Fighters who skip the downward slope!

    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Margarito should be the freshest in our minds.

    Nobuo Nashiro wins the title vs. Castillo then loses to Munoz. (To be fair Nobuo had no business wining the title in the 1st place)
    Buster Douglas beats Mike then nothing after that.
    Foreman blasted Norton in 2, then that same year Ali did a number on him.
    Joachime Alcine looks really good vs. Simms then get's blasted by Santos.
    Paul Williams beats Margarito then goes on to loose to CQuintana.
    Yeah, Foreman looked like a klutz against Ali.
    Yes but to me Ali fought the perfect fight against Foreman rather than Foreman not being the same!

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    Default Re: Fighters who skip the downward slope!

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Margarito should be the freshest in our minds.

    Nobuo Nashiro wins the title vs. Castillo then loses to Munoz. (To be fair Nobuo had no business wining the title in the 1st place)
    Buster Douglas beats Mike then nothing after that.
    Foreman blasted Norton in 2, then that same year Ali did a number on him.
    Joachime Alcine looks really good vs. Simms then get's blasted by Santos.
    Paul Williams beats Margarito then goes on to loose to CQuintana.
    Yeah, Foreman looked like a klutz against Ali.
    Yes but to me Ali fought the perfect fight against Foreman rather than Foreman not being the same!
    Foreman may have looked like a klutz but i'll be danged if that wasn't the most beautiful pirouette he did on the way down to the canvas when Ali ko'd him.
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    Default Re: Fighters who skip the downward slope!

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Margarito should be the freshest in our minds.

    Nobuo Nashiro wins the title vs. Castillo then loses to Munoz. (To be fair Nobuo had no business wining the title in the 1st place)
    Buster Douglas beats Mike then nothing after that.
    Foreman blasted Norton in 2, then that same year Ali did a number on him.
    Joachime Alcine looks really good vs. Simms then get's blasted by Santos.
    Paul Williams beats Margarito then goes on to loose to CQuintana.
    Yeah, Foreman looked like a klutz against Ali.
    Yes but to me Ali fought the perfect fight against Foreman rather than Foreman not being the same!
    That's true. Ali was brilliant, but still, Foreman did not fight smart. He just wailed away at Ali, with little though to tactics or picking his shots. Even Frazier said during the commentary that Foreman was fighting foolish, that he needed to slow down and take his time
    Last edited by CGM; 02-27-2009 at 01:02 PM.

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    Default Re: Fighters who skip the downward slope!

    Morales, Jones & maybe Margarito are the ones who really stick out for me

    Although I haven't seen much of him as it was before I was born, Don Curry was apparently a candidate for this after the Honeyghan fight

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    Default Re: Fighters who skip the downward slope!

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Margarito should be the freshest in our minds.

    Nobuo Nashiro wins the title vs. Castillo then loses to Munoz. (To be fair Nobuo had no business wining the title in the 1st place)
    Buster Douglas beats Mike then nothing after that.
    Foreman blasted Norton in 2, then that same year Ali did a number on him.
    Joachime Alcine looks really good vs. Simms then get's blasted by Santos.
    Paul Williams beats Margarito then goes on to loose to CQuintana.
    Yeah, Foreman looked like a klutz against Ali.
    Yes but to me Ali fought the perfect fight against Foreman rather than Foreman not being the same!
    True but then didn't Foreman struggle with Ron Lyle straight after he lost to Ali? That was a great fight for as long as it lasted. Both men knocking each other down multiple times. I think I remember the commentators mentioning he may have lost something in the Ali fight. He didn't look the same...he won eventually though

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    Default Re: Fighters who skip the downward slope!

    I think the most famous of all was Sonny Liston, invincible monster one year to embarrassing chump the next. He continues to fight for five more years yet he is not a contender to fight Ellis or Frazier for Ali's vacant crown? I know Liston had his problems but his invincibility vanished after the Ali fights.
    I think Foreman to a lessor extent in the 70's, he was only 28 when he retired the first time around, very young for a heavyweight to finish.

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    Default Re: Fighters who skip the downward slope!

    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post

    Yeah, Foreman looked like a klutz against Ali.
    Yes but to me Ali fought the perfect fight against Foreman rather than Foreman not being the same!
    True but then didn't Foreman struggle with Ron Lyle straight after he lost to Ali? That was a great fight for as long as it lasted. Both men knocking each other down multiple times. I think I remember the commentators mentioning he may have lost something in the Ali fight. He didn't look the same...he won eventually though
    I think Ali psychologically ruined Foreman hence the visit from god after his defeat to Jimmy Young.

    Ali had a knack of this turning "indestructables" into chumps! Remember Liston

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    Default Re: Fighters who skip the downward slope!

    Another one i've thought of is Tito! He seemed great then fought Hopkins and was never the same again.

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    Default Re: Fighters who skip the downward slope!

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Margarito should be the freshest in our minds.

    Nobuo Nashiro wins the title vs. Castillo then loses to Munoz. (To be fair Nobuo had no business wining the title in the 1st place)
    Buster Douglas beats Mike then nothing after that.
    Foreman blasted Norton in 2, then that same year Ali did a number on him.
    Joachime Alcine looks really good vs. Simms then get's blasted by Santos.
    Paul Williams beats Margarito then goes on to loose to CQuintana.
    Was it just me, or did Simms look very unmotivated in that fight? I remember having an all in bet on Simms, and he looked lazy from the start and never got up for the fight. It was very dissapointing because he had just dismantled Rivera and seemed to have momentum on his side going into that fight.
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