Question on Scoring

[SweetPea]

Judges have official scorecards with emblems and titles and names.

The scorecards are filled out as the fight goes on at the end of the fight the cards are turned in to the commision and the cards are added.

So to answer your question no, judges do not turn in scoring on a round by round basis. I believe as long as he has the card with him he can change the scoring of any round on the card.

I know theirs been cases where a judge said he scored a round wrong and the score was amended.

Theirs been cases where the commision has even added wrong and they've announced the wrong winner.

I've seen plenty of judges scorecards but I don't think I've ever seen one with crossouts on it or anything like that.

I think they turn in a score at the end of each round.

In between rounds, you see the ref walk to each side of the ring, lean thru the ropes, and get handed something. I thought one of the ref's jobs is to grab the scorecard from each judge in between rounds and hand them to the commission.

Am I wrong?

[TigerFan]

I think they turn in a score at the end of each round.

In between rounds, you see the ref walk to each side of the ring, lean thru the ropes, and get handed something. I thought one of the ref's jobs is to grab the scorecard from each judge in between rounds and hand them to the commission.

Am I wrong?

That's what I thought.

I saw Lawrence Cole collecting a paper from each judge in between rounds Saturday. Then he handed them over to someone.

[XaduBoxer]

Judges have official scorecards with emblems and titles and names.

The scorecards are filled out as the fight goes on at the end of the fight the cards are turned in to the commision and the cards are added.

So to answer your question no, judges do not turn in scoring on a round by round basis. I believe as long as he has the card with him he can change the scoring of any round on the card.

I know theirs been cases where a judge said he scored a round wrong and the score was amended.

Theirs been cases where the commision has even added wrong and they've announced the wrong winner.

I've seen plenty of judges scorecards but I don't think I've ever seen one with crossouts on it or anything like that.

I think they turn in a score at the end of each round.

In between rounds, you see the ref walk to each side of the ring, lean thru the ropes, and get handed something. I thought one of the ref's jobs is to grab the scorecard from each judge in between rounds and hand them to the commission.

Am I wrong?

That's what I observed too... I believed the score from each judge is collected by the ref after each round...

There's still a problem area though, the tabulation done by the consolidator... I guess we had this problem in the Barrera-Juarez first fight... Wrong math...
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[HattonTheHammer]

individual scorecards get collected at the end of each round and handed to the ref who in turn gives it to an official who if needed at the end of a contest will tally up the scores.

[TitoFan]

individual scorecards get collected at the end of each round and handed to the ref who in turn gives it to an official who if needed at the end of a contest will tally up the scores.

If this is true, as most everyone has said (and of course this is better than having the judges keep their scorecards till the end of the fight)....... then WHY does it sometimes takes so long to get the decision? Does it really take up to 5 minutes to add 10 points to one fighter's score and 9 or 8 to the other?



And is it any wonder people become all sorts of suspicious when it takes 5-10 minutes to get the decision?

[CutMeMick]

individual scorecards get collected at the end of each round and handed to the ref who in turn gives it to an official who if needed at the end of a contest will tally up the scores.

If this is true, as most everyone has said (and of course this is better than having the judges keep their scorecards till the end of the fight)....... then WHY does it sometimes takes so long to get the decision? Does it really take up to 5 minutes to add 10 points to one fighter's score and 9 or 8 to the other?



And is it any wonder people become all sorts of suspicious when it takes 5-10 minutes to get the decision?

Def. and then like I said they have added the points wrong and announced the wrong winner.
Then they add the totals again and get the right winner.

[TitoFan]

individual scorecards get collected at the end of each round and handed to the ref who in turn gives it to an official who if needed at the end of a contest will tally up the scores.

If this is true, as most everyone has said (and of course this is better than having the judges keep their scorecards till the end of the fight)....... then WHY does it sometimes takes so long to get the decision? Does it really take up to 5 minutes to add 10 points to one fighter's score and 9 or 8 to the other?



And is it any wonder people become all sorts of suspicious when it takes 5-10 minutes to get the decision?

Def. and then like I said they have added the points wrong and announced the wrong winner.
Then they add the totals again and get the right winner.

LOL.... it's like Moe, Larry and Curly out there.

[CutMeMick]

If this is true, as most everyone has said (and of course this is better than having the judges keep their scorecards till the end of the fight)....... then WHY does it sometimes takes so long to get the decision? Does it really take up to 5 minutes to add 10 points to one fighter's score and 9 or 8 to the other?



And is it any wonder people become all sorts of suspicious when it takes 5-10 minutes to get the decision?

Def. and then like I said they have added the points wrong and announced the wrong winner.
Then they add the totals again and get the right winner.

LOL.... it's like Moe, Larry and Curly out there.

As the times have passed lot's has changed in the way it's handled.
As disscused recently in a thread I made.

In Harada vs. Famechon I, the ref. Pep changed his original scorecard at the end of the fight awarding Fammo a narrow win over Harada.

You should see what they did to Armando Muniz vs. Jose Napoles in Mexico. Well actually I should say what Jose Sulaiman (WBC) did to Muniz.
They robbed him of a win over Napoles it was robbery in broad daylight.
Napoles unable to continue on cuts and IMO losing the fight on points the ref. along with Jose Sulaiman talk then Jose walks around and gathers up with the judges keep in mind Jose is from the org. not the commision after several minutes it is decided that they will go to the cards BUT if Napoles was unable to continue from cuts cause by a punch then it should be a TKO win for Muniz. Instead it was said that the punches were cause by head butts thus sending the fight to the judges.

The judges scored the fight for Napoles awarding him a Tech. Dec.
But you gotta see how Sulaiman man huddles up with the judges you can almost hear him say here's how the fights gonna go...

[luvfightgame]

Every state has their own rules. It varies.



But, I think scoring a fight and judging a fight are what people get confused. There's no official way to score. So people JUDGE what they think is better when awarding the 10-9 score. Since everyone's judgement is different you have the variety in scoring.

It's a beauty contest and you can't really change that. It's not just homecooking or robberies all the time. The judges will score it based upon what they like.

[TitoFan]

Every state has their own rules. It varies.



But, I think scoring a fight and judging a fight are what people get confused. There's no official way to score. So people JUDGE what they think is better when awarding the 10-9 score. Since everyone's judgement is different you have the variety in scoring.

It's a beauty contest and you can't really change that. It's not just homecooking or robberies all the time. The judges will score it based upon what they like.

While this may be true, it still doesn't explain why it sometimes takes up to 5 minutes to add up the scores from the last round, when the rest of the cards have been compiled for the past three minutes. Rocket science, it ain't.

[CutMeMick]

Judges have official scorecards with emblems and titles and names.

The scorecards are filled out as the fight goes on at the end of the fight the cards are turned in to the commision and the cards are added.

So to answer your question no, judges do not turn in scoring on a round by round basis. I believe as long as he has the card with him he can change the scoring of any round on the card.

I know theirs been cases where a judge said he scored a round wrong and the score was amended.

Theirs been cases where the commision has even added wrong and they've announced the wrong winner.

I've seen plenty of judges scorecards but I don't think I've ever seen one with crossouts on it or anything like that.

I think they turn in a score at the end of each round.

In between rounds, you see the ref walk to each side of the ring, lean thru the ropes, and get handed something. I thought one of the ref's jobs is to grab the scorecard from each judge in between rounds and hand them to the commission.

Am I wrong?

No you are right judges turn in their score at the end of every round and then at the end of the fight they are tallied by the commision.

But I've also seen what I stated done in events that I've been to.
Where judges don't turn in scores at the end of the round but turn in the entire scorecard at the end. Guess I could have been more clear on my part.