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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    I think you guy's are really underestimating Adamek. He would be the biggest fighter he has fought and to me probably the toughest. That is a huge statement taking into consideration who Bernard has fought but just take a look at his biggest wins. The only even playing field he had was against Jones and Taylor. The men he has faced were all smaller fighter's moving up in weight think about it. Tito,Oscar,Winky,Kelly,Tarver came down from the movie I believe he was weighing 223lbs he was deflated. Yes Calzaghe beat him but he has been around that weight his whole career. I don't like this fight for B-Hop skills can take you so far against a big man who gets to you and can punch. Hopkins doesn't have those type of legs he had against Tito anymore. He would have to trade with Adamek and that would be the wrong thing to do.

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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    dont wanna see bhop at 200pds and would probably go out of my way to avoid watching it (although i would probs end up watching it)

    Talent wise adamek isnt fit to even be in the same ring as hopkins though would have a decent chance at 200 due to the fact hopkins would have to either put 25pound of muscle on in a short time (all but impossible) or turn into a big fat lump like toney

    Dont do it bernard, 1-2 more fights at 175 where you just take all the belts and then call it day......PLEASE

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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    I think he beats Adamek if he can retain his footwork. I mean Chad Dawson how no problems whatsoever beating Adamek. Besides the knockdown with was more his feet being out of position, Chad didn't lose a round, and had Adamek completely at a loss.

    I think Adamek is a really good fighter, but he isn't as good as Kelly Pavlik, nor does he have that same power, and he is tailor made like Pavlik for Hopkins.

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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    dont wanna see bhop at 200pds and would probably go out of my way to avoid watching it (although i would probs end up watching it)

    Talent wise adamek isnt fit to even be in the same ring as hopkins though would have a decent chance at 200 due to the fact hopkins would have to either put 25pound of muscle on in a short time (all but impossible) or turn into a big fat lump like toney

    Dont do it bernard, 1-2 more fights at 175 where you just take all the belts and then call it day......PLEASE
    Actually all he has to weigh is 176 pounds+...

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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    I would love to see BHop fight Adamek.....I would also love to see BHop get laid out by Adamek (I know this wont happen but I can hope)

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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    At this point when Hopkins calls somebody out and it comes to fruition, I'd be shocked if he didn't win. So the consensus is that Hopkins could outbox him but he'd have to worry about getting clipped and KO'ed by the more powerful puncher? That makes it hard not to pick him for my money. Having said that of course Adamek is naturally the biggest guy Hopkins would have ever fought, but a size is hardly what you want going for you against Bernard. Thing that worries me is whether Hopkins can really put on more weight properly at 44, it's got to end somewhere. This isn't like fighting Pavlik who really wasn't any bigger than Hopkins naturally, although it could be in the sense that Adamek isn't quick or mobile enough to find him. GREAT fight if it's made imo.
    Adamek isn't much bigger than Hopkins. They both stand 6'1 and change and have a 75" reach. Sure, Adamek is a big puncher, but he won't be able to catch Hopkins because Hopkins will throw combinations and clinch. Something he can't do against faster fighters. Adamek is somewhat of a bigger Pavlik and we saw what Hopkins did to Pavlik.

    It explains why Hopkins wanted nothing to do with Dawson. A fight against Cunningham for the crown of Philly would have been huge, but Hopkins wants nothing to do with Cunningham.

    Hopkins wide-UD.

    Give Adamek his due because wins over O'Neil Bell, Steven Cunningham, Paul Briggs, and Jonathon Banks merit it. He has beat faster fighters many times, but he hasn't fought anyone close to as crafty as Bhop. Not many have. No one at 200 beats Adamek.

    On the other hand, a Bhop v. Adamek would sell a ton of tickets at MSG or the Prudential Center in Newark and Adamek would have a career high pay day. No one at 200 would bring that big of a purse. Why not? It's not like Hopkins will hurt him. Then take a trip over the pond and wipe the floor with Enzo Mac.
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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    At this point when Hopkins calls somebody out and it comes to fruition, I'd be shocked if he didn't win. So the consensus is that Hopkins could outbox him but he'd have to worry about getting clipped and KO'ed by the more powerful puncher? That makes it hard not to pick him for my money. Having said that of course Adamek is naturally the biggest guy Hopkins would have ever fought, but a size is hardly what you want going for you against Bernard. Thing that worries me is whether Hopkins can really put on more weight properly at 44, it's got to end somewhere. This isn't like fighting Pavlik who really wasn't any bigger than Hopkins naturally, although it could be in the sense that Adamek isn't quick or mobile enough to find him. GREAT fight if it's made imo.
    Adamek isn't much bigger than Hopkins. They both stand 6'1 and change and have a 75" reach. Sure, Adamek is a big puncher, but he won't be able to catch Hopkins because Hopkins will throw combinations and clinch. Something he can't do against faster fighters. Adamek is somewhat of a bigger Pavlik and we saw what Hopkins did to Pavlik.

    It explains why Hopkins wanted nothing to do with Dawson. A fight against Cunningham for the crown of Philly would have been huge, but Hopkins wants nothing to do with Cunningham.

    Hopkins wide-UD.

    Give Adamek his due because wins over O'Neil Bell, Steven Cunningham, Paul Briggs, and Jonathon Banks merit it. He has beat faster fighters many times, but he hasn't fought anyone close to as crafty as Bhop. Not many have. No one at 200 beats Adamek.

    On the other hand, a Bhop v. Adamek would sell a ton of tickets at MSG or the Prudential Center in Newark and Adamek would have a career high pay day. No one at 200 would bring that big of a purse. Why not? It's not like Hopkins will hurt him. Then take a trip over the pond and wipe the floor with Enzo Mac.
    Agreed here.I can see Hopkins punching in between Adamek pressure and setting the pace very early,just dont see Adamek with the reverse gears to cope with Hopkins still present combination punching or dealing with angles too well.I would however be weary of Hopkins clinching and laying in too much.Ive come to like Adamek over his last few,Not a pure plodder at all and can turn it up when he has to but I think Hopkins has calculated this one down to the last detail.

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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    Hopkins should just retire at this point. Hopkins was gassed against Calzaghe and had his last hurrah against Pavlik. He should leave it at that. If he starts messing with the big men at this very late stage he would most likely come a cropper.

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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    No offense but I dont know how many "perfect endings: Hopkins has left.

    He is someone that has earned his retirement about 10 times already.

    He beats Tarver and then returesm then we think its over and its the perfect ending for him.

    He comes back, he faces Wright and Calzaghe and we think Hopkins is too past it and should have retired after the Tarver win despite his ability to still go.

    Then he beats Pavlik the current middleweight champion and beats him badly permenantly stamping him as The BEST Middleweight whenever he choses regardless of who the current champ is.

    Hopkins could go up and win the Cruiserweight title. But he really shouldnt. I Just wish Hopkins would retire.

    I don't want him to end up losing one day to someone who doesnt even belong on his record
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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    Nobody he's been fighting for the last few years "doesn't belong on his record", Adamek's pretty much the recognized man at cruiser, it would be another big victory for Hopkins.

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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    This strikes me as an odd choice for Hopkins, I mean from what I understand is that he has to contantly eat just to get up to 175, even if he does come in at 176 as Adam pointed out as the minimum requirement, that's a huge weight advantage for Tomasz. Stylewise if B-Hop is on form this should actually be an easy fight for Hopkins, nothing against Tomasz, just an issue of styles. I would have thought Hopkins would go for BCD.
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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    Dawson would be a more difficult fight IMO, Bernard would rather face a slower guy even if he's 25 pounds bigger.

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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Dawson would be a more difficult fight IMO, Bernard would rather face a slower guy even if he's 25 pounds bigger.
    For me that would be much more interesting, it's not as if he hasn't solidified his legacy.
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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    I'd be interested in that fight. Dawson is the flavour of the month though and has performed very well so maybe Adamek is a warm up for Dawson?
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    Default Re: Hopkins Calling Out Adamek?

    I wouldn't mind seeing Hopkins/ Adamek. Should Hopkins win he would be the 1st to win 3 seperate weight Ring championships.

    A fight with Dawson would also be interesting as it would be for the now vacant LH championship.

    I feel a win over either guy would increase Hopkins' legacy & a loss to either would not really tarnish it much. So in essence its a now lose situation for Hopkins!
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