Eyesight Orthodox/Southpaws

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I still work the bag both ways. I do notice the difference in how solid or fast punches feel.

From southpaw my punches feel faster, especially the jab.
From orthodox things are stronger. I have a good shovel hook (even if I say so myself) but it doesn't feel so good to the head (possibly with being a girl and most people you end up training with are taller you're throwing at an angel.)

My natural tendancy is to be front footed, I am conscious of that. It's interesting to notice how your boxing style changes when you focus on staying evenly balanced.

It's very interesting for me to consider how much is natural and how much learnt. For about 2 and half years I was taught as a southpaw and I feel more evenly balanced that way, orthodox I have to remind myself to be.

Never considered the role of eyesight.

We did used to perform visual reaction drills.
Person holds the pad, the other hand is used to cue, sometimes in front of you sometimes at your peripheral vision. As you got better the cue would become smaller. Good drill.

[Trainer Monkey]

Good thread,it got me thinking. Im orthodox,and from a life time of doing things right handed,I do indeed pick up things faster out of my right eye then my left.If you come to my right side,I slip better because I see it sooner. Its not even guard and stance,I just see it quicker. Its not even eyesight because I have 20/20 vision,but now that you mention it,I do pick things up faster if its coming from the right then my left.
Hadnt given it too much thought before,I just thought it was an assumptive

[Scrap]

Perfect 20/20 vision is found in 1 of 37,000,000 people thats interesting very rare.

[RozzySean]

Good thread,it got me thinking. Im orthodox,and from a life time of doing things right handed,I do indeed pick up things faster out of my right eye then my left.If you come to my right side,I slip better because I see it sooner. Its not even guard and stance,I just see it quicker. Its not even eyesight because I have 20/20 vision,but now that you mention it,I do pick things up faster if its coming from the right then my left.
Hadnt given it too much thought before,I just thought it was an assumptive

I see right hands coming much better. I really need to keep my right hand glued to my chin, but I can lower the left guard from time to time to bait a right cross. In drills, I work on ducking the hook all the time, but when it comes down to actual sparring, I don't see the hook coming in time to duck it. If I don't keep the right up, I get nailed. I just don't see the hooking coming that well. Even jabs, it feels very unnatural to slip them to the left and I catch/parry them more than anything. I'm much better at slipping to the left or even countering with my left after blocking a right.

I never though about how my eye dominance played into all this. Definitely a cool thread.

[RozzySean]

I would be interested to know the eye dominance of certain pro fighters. I wonder if having cross dominant eyes helps you with certain defense style - the philly shell for example which relies on rolling or slipping the straight right and countering off it.

[Trainer Monkey]

Good thread,it got me thinking. Im orthodox,and from a life time of doing things right handed,I do indeed pick up things faster out of my right eye then my left.If you come to my right side,I slip better because I see it sooner. Its not even guard and stance,I just see it quicker. Its not even eyesight because I have 20/20 vision,but now that you mention it,I do pick things up faster if its coming from the right then my left.
Hadnt given it too much thought before,I just thought it was an assumptive

I see right hands coming much better. I really need to keep my right hand glued to my chin, but I can lower the left guard from time to time to bait a right cross. In drills, I work on ducking the hook all the time, but when it comes down to actual sparring, I don't see the hook coming in time to duck it. If I don't keep the right up, I get nailed. I just don't see the hooking coming that well. Even jabs, it feels very unnatural to slip them to the left and I catch/parry them more than anything. I'm much better at slipping to the left or even countering with my left after blocking a right.

I never though about how my eye dominance played into all this. Definitely a cool thread.

I keep a way tighter defense to my left then to my right.I just loose track of shots coming from that side if Im not paying enough attention. It may be hand eye co-ordination or it may be a sight thing. But Ive allways dealt with it by keeping my left side defense as tight as possible.
Good thread regardless

[Scrap]

While I take myself away from reading about Aliens, heres something of interest. Youve heard the saying His arseholes Gone, well you can always tell by where there Head is in relation to there Arse, when they stick it out of line they finish up looking at the Floor not at what they should be looking at.They are looking at where they will land. Just like Aliens, be carefull they are coming.

[RozzySean]

Good thread,it got me thinking. Im orthodox,and from a life time of doing things right handed,I do indeed pick up things faster out of my right eye then my left.If you come to my right side,I slip better because I see it sooner. Its not even guard and stance,I just see it quicker. Its not even eyesight because I have 20/20 vision,but now that you mention it,I do pick things up faster if its coming from the right then my left.
Hadnt given it too much thought before,I just thought it was an assumptive

I see right hands coming much better. I really need to keep my right hand glued to my chin, but I can lower the left guard from time to time to bait a right cross. In drills, I work on ducking the hook all the time, but when it comes down to actual sparring, I don't see the hook coming in time to duck it. If I don't keep the right up, I get nailed. I just don't see the hooking coming that well. Even jabs, it feels very unnatural to slip them to the left and I catch/parry them more than anything. I'm much better at slipping to the left or even countering with my left after blocking a right.

I never though about how my eye dominance played into all this. Definitely a cool thread.

I keep a way tighter defense to my left then to my right.I just loose track of shots coming from that side if Im not paying enough attention. It may be hand eye co-ordination or it may be a sight thing. But Ive allways dealt with it by keeping my left side defense as tight as possible.
Good thread regardless

Which is exactly how I feel about my right side defense. I almost totally reliant on keeping my right hand in position to catch jabs or block hooks I don't see. When I counter against a hook, it's always a righthand AFTER the contact with hook. I just don't see them coming soon enough to duck it and the the right off smoothly. Against a right, I feel like I have so many more options because I can slip cleanly in addition to blocking or shoulder rolling.

[Andre]

I see right hands coming much better. I really need to keep my right hand glued to my chin, but I can lower the left guard from time to time to bait a right cross. In drills, I work on ducking the hook all the time, but when it comes down to actual sparring, I don't see the hook coming in time to duck it. If I don't keep the right up, I get nailed. I just don't see the hooking coming that well. Even jabs, it feels very unnatural to slip them to the left and I catch/parry them more than anything. I'm much better at slipping to the left or even countering with my left after blocking a right.

I never though about how my eye dominance played into all this. Definitely a cool thread.

I keep a way tighter defense to my left then to my right.I just loose track of shots coming from that side if Im not paying enough attention. It may be hand eye co-ordination or it may be a sight thing. But Ive allways dealt with it by keeping my left side defense as tight as possible.
Good thread regardless

Which is exactly how I feel about my right side defense. I almost totally reliant on keeping my right hand in position to catch jabs or block hooks I don't see. When I counter against a hook, it's always a righthand AFTER the contact with hook. I just don't see them coming soon enough to duck it and the the right off smoothly. Against a right, I feel like I have so many more options because I can slip cleanly in addition to blocking or shoulder rolling.

So with your right hand still up and you have got caught with a left high hook; do you ever try turning and facing the hook as it contacts? cause you have got it covered anyway,its going to hit your glove why not stop it dead a few inches out from your head as you turn. thishas your left instantly fireing a straight shot.

You can also walk through it out that same side and throw a straight left down the pipe as you move cause it opens them up when you make your right glove push on their left forearm as you step through bodily.

Easier if they retract the missed shot or better still if they hold it out (if they fight against it by reaction) then they have to re balance and reposition cause they open right up as you win with whole body weight moving against just an arm. If they retract the shot, you have got closer and choked the next shot off their left arm while moving out of range of their right hand. Its a win win for you.



You could also take it on the right glove,but then drop your right glove down as you pull your left front foot back square or even in to a full switch if required and hook around their left arm either over or under a their left glove is still riding on your cheek; so that your own right hook is covered from there vision by their own left arm. Takes a fast shift and good foot work but can be very annoying to them. And you have your left hand free to deal with his right arm if and when it comes, (that depends on if you have just gone square with a half step back and his right can still reach you of course).