Kid thunder

[Trainer Monkey]

He actually went the distance which he'd never done before,and the one judge who gave it to McClure wasnt in his seat for a round and a half,even then it was a 1 point decision.
So yep,you could safely say he improved alot,and for my money he won the fight hands down. I was going to file a formal complaint over it,but McClure asked for a rematch,so I talked to Andrew and he decided he'd rather have another shot at McClure,then get in to an argument with the commissioner.
I felt really awful for Andrew about the whole thing,he fights probably the best fight of his career only to get hosed by a judge who wasnt even watching a round and a half of the fight

[Memphis]

So another one of your fighters gets beat but it wasnt their fault? It was the referees fault, the judges fault, the other guys fault for punching back.

Patern forming here isnt there.

[Trainer Monkey]

So another one of your fighters gets beat but it wasnt their fault? It was the referees fault, the judges fault, the other guys fault for punching back.

Patern forming here isnt there.

So your saying if your supposed to be judging a fight,you dont actually have to be looking at it?
I mean being as I have it on film,and his chair is unoccupied for a round and a half,and everybody who watched the fight(unlike the judge in question) specifically gave those rounds to Andrew(unlike the judge who apparantly needed a potty break from doing his job)
Ive seen the fight from 3 different angles and any idiot can see Andrew won the fight,the other two judges had it a draw,which I still think is BS,but at least they had the decency to be at ringside for the whole fight.
Even McClure doesnt think he won the fight,and since he was the other guy in the ring,he'd have something to judge it on.
Unlike you

[Memphis]

So another one of your fighters gets beat but it wasnt their fault? It was the referees fault, the judges fault, the other guys fault for punching back.

Patern forming here isnt there.

So your saying if your supposed to be judging a fight,you dont actually have to be looking at it?

Why not, you train him without actually looking at him. Dude it was a majority decision, one of them thought he lost legit.

[Trainer Monkey]

So another one of your fighters gets beat but it wasnt their fault? It was the referees fault, the judges fault, the other guys fault for punching back.

Patern forming here isnt there.

So your saying if your supposed to be judging a fight,you dont actually have to be looking at it?

Why not, you train him without actually looking at him. Dude it was a majority decision, one of them thought he lost legit.

A) Yes I do look at him,I get his training tapes constantly,and he gets training tapes from me constantly,and Im the first person to take his training seriously.He's annoyed right now that I micromanage his diet,so he only got to have a bagel with no cream cheese last night for a snack instead of junk food.
B) It was a 1 point,and I do mean 1 point split,because 2 cards had it even
C)If the kid he was fighting doesnt think he won the fight either...........
I mean youd think McClure had a better vantage point then just about anyone,he was the one getting hit in the face,and he doesnt think he won. And he'd be right in that assessment,because he didnt.

Everything about Andrew is micromanaged now,hell I'll know tonight how his day at work went.
And he's responded by throwing up the best fight of his entire career,and he'll be better next time by far

[Memphis]

Only a bagel with no cream cheese? OK, I take it all back, you da man

[Trainer Monkey]

Only a bagel with no cream cheese? OK, I take it all back, you da man

He's ticked off about it,he used to eat,well Id rather not say,because then Id want some,and Im not allowed to eat that crap either.
But dear god a Whopper would taste good right now,or an Encore Salisbury Steak,man their good.
And since your curious,Andrew came in UNDER weight for his last fight,almost like somebody was checking his diet and exercise regiment.Or there was like this great holy miracle from god.
And for the record,I made him buy a new scale,because his scale was saying he was over,and it turned out he was way over

[ono]

So your saying if your supposed to be judging a fight,you dont actually have to be looking at it?

Why not, you train him without actually looking at him. Dude it was a majority decision, one of them thought he lost legit.

A) Yes I do look at him,I get his training tapes constantly,and he gets training tapes from me constantly,and Im the first person to take his training seriously.He's annoyed right now that I micromanage his diet,so he only got to have a bagel with no cream cheese last night for a snack instead of junk food.
B) It was a 1 point,and I do mean 1 point split,because 2 cards had it even
C)If the kid he was fighting doesnt think he won the fight either...........
I mean youd think McClure had a better vantage point then just about anyone,he was the one getting hit in the face,and he doesnt think he won. And he'd be right in that assessment,because he didnt.

Everything about Andrew is micromanaged now,hell I'll know tonight how his day at work went.
And he's responded by throwing up the best fight of his entire career,and he'll be better next time by far

Judging by your food for the travelling boxer thread.....

[Tilt A Whirl]

Why not, you train him without actually looking at him. Dude it was a majority decision, one of them thought he lost legit.

A) Yes I do look at him,I get his training tapes constantly,and he gets training tapes from me constantly,and Im the first person to take his training seriously.He's annoyed right now that I micromanage his diet,so he only got to have a bagel with no cream cheese last night for a snack instead of junk food.
B) It was a 1 point,and I do mean 1 point split,because 2 cards had it even
C)If the kid he was fighting doesnt think he won the fight either...........
I mean youd think McClure had a better vantage point then just about anyone,he was the one getting hit in the face,and he doesnt think he won. And he'd be right in that assessment,because he didnt.

Everything about Andrew is micromanaged now,hell I'll know tonight how his day at work went.
And he's responded by throwing up the best fight of his entire career,and he'll be better next time by far

Judging by your food for the travelling boxer thread.....

You kidding?food in Tinidad is deep fried deep fried something
I was putting up health food in comparison

[Taeth]

So another one of your fighters gets beat but it wasnt their fault? It was the referees fault, the judges fault, the other guys fault for punching back.

Patern forming here isnt there.

So your saying if your supposed to be judging a fight,you dont actually have to be looking at it?

Why not, you train him without actually looking at him. Dude it was a majority decision, one of them thought he lost legit.

Why are you being a prick about this, what has monkey done to you?

[Tilt A Whirl]

Thanks Taeth
I only really started helping Andrew right before the Dumas fight,and I do mean within days.And he got flat out whupped in that fight,because he sweated down to weight at the last minute,not trained down to weight naturally.
But I saw something in him even in defeat,that said,"You know,if he actually had a trainer he could do something",you just cant keep that boy down.
You want to see the difference in Andrew and Charlie,its pretty obvious. Andrew had never had much training but it never stopped him from trying against bad odds,Charlie's had 100's of dollars worth of training and its never stopped him from running from any odds.
Are there things I wish he hadnt done against McClure? Of course there are. But that doesnt mean I cant objectivly look at the fight,and say he won. We've still got a road to travel,and he still has things he has to fix if he wants that record to look better,but now that he knows someone cares about how he does in there, he's putting in the work to do it.
Honestly,sometimes its more of an effort to keep him from overworking and hurting himself

[Violent Demise]

He actually went the distance which he'd never done before,and the one judge who gave it to McClure wasnt in his seat for a round and a half,even then it was a 1 point decision.
So yep,you could safely say he improved alot,and for my money he won the fight hands down. I was going to file a formal complaint over it,but McClure asked for a rematch,so I talked to Andrew and he decided he'd rather have another shot at McClure,then get in to an argument with the commissioner.
I felt really awful for Andrew about the whole thing,he fights probably the best fight of his career only to get hosed by a judge who wasnt even watching a round and a half of the fight

Don't blame him. Some of the local hooligans were trying to steal his ice cream truck. He had to run out there.

[kid_thunder]

hey dark do u want to see the fight video and judge it for yourself

[HattonTheHammer]

I dont really understand why trainer monkey deserves to be ripped on like this??

So he sticks up for his guys and at times may even be borderline byest, we`d all be the same much like when our favourite sports team loses a close contest.

And what the hell is wrong with him getting his fighters names out there through the internet?? kid thunder and charlie zelenoff should by right be complete unknowns yet they managed to become over night boxing forum celebritys through their shananigans on the web.

No he may not ever manage to work with a decent fighter with a solid record, but he`s still getting these guys some attention!!!

[ElTerribleMorales]

I dont really understand why trainer monkey deserves to be ripped on like this??

So he sticks up for his guys and at times may even be borderline byest, we`d all be the same much like when our favourite sports team loses a close contest.

And what the hell is wrong with him getting his fighters names out there through the internet?? kid thunder and charlie zelenoff should by right be complete unknowns yet they managed to become over night boxing forum celebritys through their shananigans on the web.

No he may not ever manage to work with a decent fighter with a solid record, but he`s still getting these guys some attention!!!

and on that note i'd love to see Kid Thunder Vs. the dude from Napoleon Dynamite, the guy with the flag pants