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Hey Jaz, I agree with you on this as well mate, I like Trainer Monkey too, he's a nice guy, a good laugh and nothing wrong with being eccentric.

Regarding his fighters stable though, really, he needs to give it up. Neither Kid Thunder or his wife should be getting into a professional boxing ring, they simply arn't competitive at that level.

But there is no shame in that, if I stepped into a boxing ring with my diseased lungs, sloth like reflexes, frail bones and timid heart I'd do worse than both of them for sure, I'd never hear the bell for round two, but guess what, that is a large part of the reason for why I chosen NOT to take up professional boxing.

I mean if you box becuase you love it and want to improve, then maybe take up amatuer boxing. At least with only 4 x 2 min rounds, headguards, standing counts etc you are unilikey to get badly hurt, certainly I've never heard of anyone killed or seriously injured in amatuer boxing, but to have no boxing experience and then to turn PROFESSIONAL is just absolutely fucking nuts.

You wouldn't expect to be able to compete professionally in any other sport without previous experience so why would you assume you could in the toughest sport of all.

It's just ridiculous, can you imagine some guy who like to play on the pitch and putt at the weekend with his kids deciding he's good enough to enter one of the Golf Majors, how would he do realistically?

Or maybe someone who goes karting regularly suddenly being put behind the wheel of a Formula One car and lining up at the back of the grid for the Monaco Grand Prix.

It's just absurd to think these people could compete, the golfer would just humiliate himself on telly and the go kartist would likely get himself killed.


Nobody is saying TM, his wife or Thunder are failures as human beings because they arn't cut out for pro boxing, probably 90% of those of us on this site would do no better.

The difference is we have the sense to realise that we are unlikely to be able to stick on a pair of boxing gloves, step into a boxing ring and work our up to being a world champ, unless maybe it's on the Nintendo Wii.
Thing is, in other sports, you have to "qualify" to be on a pro level. In racing you have to make the race. In golf, chances are that you golfed your whole life throughout school and someone saw your talent and took you to the next level.

In boxing, it seems like anyone can turn pro. Which is why Kid thunder actually has wins on his record. Looking at him, to think that he ACTUALLY beat two other fighters should be even scarier than his 14 losses or however many there are.

I just don't understand when kid thunder says he has love for the sport, yadda yadda, yet TM told us he barely trained and ate donuts. That's a lot of love and determination to succeed. I loved the sport of baseball throughout my whole life, which is why i played 11 of 12 months a year. I didn't talk about it on a message board, or make youtube videos of how my fastball reaches 90mph (it doesn't.. just an example ).

Actually it's even much tougher than that. In the UK at least in order to become a golf professional you actually have to take exams and do courses in addition to having obvious golfing talent.

It's basically a three year degree course.

It seems that boxing has the lowest entry requirements of any pro sport, which is bizarre considering its also possibly the most dangerous.
That's intense.. I went to a high school with a number of current pro athletes. Without mentioning any names (but to prove i am not pulling an "ICB" i will PM you their names if you'd like ), I was in class with a few and lets just say they wouldn't pass many courses.. If it wasn't for scholarships and help from teachers (basically the fact that the teachers knew they were really good athletes and wouldn't hurt them academically to stop them from playing) they wouldn't get too far.

In boxing there should be some sort of criteria. If you have a decent amature record, then you're allowed to turn pro. If you didn't fight as an amature, considering there are a number of above average pros who haven't, then you have to fight someone with a commision representative, or something equal to that, present. I think that would at least be good for a start.

Now, cue the "this is taking boxing away from the middle class.. the people who have love for the sport BLAH BLAH FUCKING BLAH"..