Ortiz And Laguna, Two Of The Greatest Lightweights Of All Time

**BoomBoom** · 03-11-2009 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Bumped ... and some side notes ...

Ortiz has 2 wins over the great Flash Elorde while Laguna has a loss to Flash Elorde ...
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True, Ortiz even stopped him over in Eldores backyard to take his title. Flash was another great fighter who would fight anyone.

**Spicoli** · 03-11-2009 11:51 PM

That is some pretty solid stuff BoomBoom,occurs to me that sometimes we get caught up in all the bickering on here with 'my fighter is better than your fighter' that some of the well thought out insight gets over looked.My bad.Thanks for the education here Boom,Appreciated much.

From what Ive seen and read on Laguna,that man was a slickster with superb mobility and strikes me as one that could walk right into todays era and do very well.Very fluid,great jabber.What he did to Ramos was torturous.Heard that Ortizs saw Laguna training prior to the 1st meeting and pulled out with a 'fever' to train up proper...and Lagunas still put on a smooth show.

**BoomBoom** · 03-12-2009 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

That is some pretty solid stuff BoomBoom,occurs to me that sometimes we get caught up in all the bickering on here with 'my fighter is better than your fighter' that some of the well thought out insight gets over looked.My bad.Thanks for the education here Boom,Appreciated much.

From what Ive seen and read on Laguna,that man was a slickster with superb mobility and strikes me as one that could walk right into todays era and do very well.Very fluid,great jabber.What he did to Ramos was torturous.Heard that Ortizs saw Laguna training prior to the 1st meeting and pulled out with a 'fever' to train up proper...and Lagunas still put on a smooth show.

Thanks Spicoli, your a solid poster man, you know your sh@t. id be a hypocrite to say i dont get caught up in pointless debates myself.

I didnt know that about Ortiz training for Laguna, thats interesting. When Laguna fought he had his entire country behind him, he must have trained hard.

**Galaxy** · 03-12-2009 12:55 AM

Great stuff BoomBoom!

For me Ortiz is definately a top 10 all time lightweight, Laguna top 20!

I'd have Duran 1st, then guys like Leonard, Whitaker & Gans

... then Williams would squeeze Ortiz outta the top 5!

**BoomBoom** · 03-12-2009 01:46 AM

Thanks Man. Leonard, Gans, Williams, cant agrue against any of them top 5 they must have near 400 wins between them! Whitaker was a great fighter at any weight. I dont have him top 5 based on his opposition, but he definately has a case for it.