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    Default Re: Is Buddy McGirt overrated as a trainer?

    He does not seem to inspire ? He has always been a very low-key guy.I do have a suspicion that he will 'urge' his son to call it a career though.

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    Default Re: Is Buddy McGirt overrated as a trainer?

    Maybe if he did a little "Yoel" boom boom bap boom. I think he just hasn't got the right fighter that can execute his strategy, which means he can't adapt. Perhaps overrated is the correct term.
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    I think hes a good trainer but hes done some questionable things. The thing that stands out to me was his gameplan for Gatti to outbox Mayweather. But hes done some other things with his fighters that proved to be very sucessful. I thought he was crazy to have his son fight Joval after his first loss, but t proved to be a genius move and the perfect fiht for Jr. Obviously his career has gone downhill since but thats not because of McGirt Sr. Overall, I think hes a good trainer, I think its fair to say a bit overrated but there was like a two year period a couple years ago when his fighters were doing well and he noticably adjusted them for the better.
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    Default Re: Is Buddy McGirt overrated as a trainer?

    I think Lyle hit the nail on the head. Those have been my thoughts exactly. Plus, he seems to pull the rug of confidence right out from under his fighters if things aren't going their way. Stuff like: "I can't let you keep taking those punches like that." The way he says it, comes out sounding to my ears like: "Either just run for the rest of the fight, or let's call it, cuz there's no way for you to win."

    Could be that he's a good trainer, but maybe not so hot at cornering?

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    Default Re: Is Buddy McGirt overrated as a trainer?

    I think he is probably a very good trainer, but his work in the corner is quite frankly abysmal. He has though I think helped take fighters to world titles who quite honestly shouldn't have been there IMO. I don't think he can be blamed for Malignaggi's performances, I think that all comes down to the fact Paulie hasn't got no power, & it consistently hurts him against fighters who're even 2nd tier

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    Default Re: Is Buddy McGirt overrated as a trainer?

    I've never seen a McGirt fighter win a fight....ever.

    Going by his corner work, i'd imagine his training skills are about as good as mine.

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    Default Re: Is Buddy McGirt overrated as a trainer?

    You really have to pick your spots when you give your fighter bad news in the corner and you really have to know your fighter as well. Buddy rarely gives any advice at all in the corner and he always tells his fighters bad news, maybe his fighters just can't handle it but there is some disconnect between what Buddy tells his fighters and what he expects them to do.

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    Default Re: Is Buddy McGirt overrated as a trainer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    You really have to pick your spots when you give your fighter bad news in the corner and you really have to know your fighter as well. Buddy rarely gives any advice at all in the corner and he always tells his fighters bad news, maybe his fighters just can't handle it but there is some disconnect between what Buddy tells his fighters and what he expects them to do.
    I do remember Malignaggi saying after the Hatton fight in an interview i saw on youtube that when Buddy said for him to do something or he was gonna stop the fight he didn't take him seriously, he thought he was just trying to spur him on and when Buddy did stop the fight he was like 'wtf!?' which is why he was pissed. So you'd be spot on about the disconnect between him and his fighters
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    Default Re: Is Buddy McGirt overrated as a trainer?

    I cant remeber any Buddy McGirt fighter ever winning a big fight. It has gotton to the point where if I see McGirt in the corner, I feel like I already now the outcome of the fight.

    HBO should show a "spoiler alert" before showing Buddy on camera.

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