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    Default Re: Booing of Britains returning 'heroes' - what's your take on it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    IF you agree with the war or not , the soldiers have risked their lives , anyone who boo's them should be shot for treason.
    I am happy to stand by what is said earlier , fact is the twats who are booing our troops would be the first to cry for help if we were being attacked by a hostile nation.
    Im sick of this nanny state , this politically correctness gone mad , i personally would not stand for this kind of bullshit , and im ashamed that the powers that be cant , or havent got the balls to sort this mess we call Britain out. Im totally sick of mindless religious bigot's , they can all go fuck themselves .

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    Default Re: Booing of Britains returning 'heroes' - what's your take on it?

    I can't speak to UK soldiers/sailors etc but I can say that there is a myriad of reasons that Americans join the military. Family tradition, money for school, adventure, needs a job etc. Ultimately it is about one thing and that is service to ones country. As its been said service members don't make policy and they don't choose when and where to deploy. They must defer to their nation's leaders and electorate that put those leaders in place. I've spent countless hours and days working in the community. After the hurricanes in Lousianna we spent weeks cleaning up and providing support for the local communities. I am just as proud of these duties as my combat deployments. While some of you may disagree with the concept of your military as a protectorate it doesn't take away from the concept of selfless service that your respective nation's young men and women express by joining something that is bigger than themselves. As a whole they deserve more respect than being heckled upon their return home from a combat zone.
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    Other normal Muslims need to have the balls to speak out against all the ones that are onside with the militants and the jihad insanity.

    Service, a slightly looser term than its real meaning when being paid.
    Conscription too, forced 'service' in some cases.

    Anyway very ballsy job ,deserves respect for sure, not the reverse.

    Fuck the ones pulling all the strings behind both sides of the conflict for their own reasons though.

    Really what should happen to the booers and protesters is that Mi5 and the cia should be filming them secrectly, finding out who they are, abducting the ring leaders off the streets, flying them out to bases in neutral lawless zones ,torture them for a number of months, get written confessions out them, lock them up in Gwatanimo bay and decide when to deal with them in a closed court session not open to any public law practitioners. that'll help.


    Oh hang on, that is what we do now .
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    Default Re: Booing of Britains returning 'heroes' - what's your take on it?

    you had me going for a minute there Andre
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    you had me going for a minute there Andre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Other normal Muslims need to have the balls to speak out against all the ones that are onside with the militants and the jihad insanity.

    Service, a slightly looser term than its real meaning when being paid.
    Conscription too, forced 'service' in some cases.

    Anyway very ballsy job ,deserves respect for sure, not the reverse.

    Fuck the ones pulling all the strings behind both sides of the conflict for their own reasons though.

    Really what should happen to the booers and protesters is that Mi5 and the cia should be filming them secrectly, finding out who they are, abducting the ring leaders off the streets, flying them out to bases in neutral lawless zones ,torture them for a number of months, get written confessions out them, lock them up in Gwatanimo bay and decide when to deal with them in a closed court session not open to any public law practitioners. that'll help.


    Oh hang on, that is what we do now .
    A lot of them do, but I imagine it must get pretty tiring having to explain constantly why they're idiots. I mean you probably would get pretty sick of it if you had to justify why those who started the bushfires were idiots, when all they may share with you is a faith or ethnicity. Also your average Muslim in Britain doesn't generally have the best access to mass media organization. Its not like Ahmed from down the road can exactly march into the BBC & demand a five minute section on the 6 o clock news to say why he doesn't like the moronic jihadists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Other normal Muslims need to have the balls to speak out against all the ones that are onside with the militants and the jihad insanity.

    Service, a slightly looser term than its real meaning when being paid.
    Conscription too, forced 'service' in some cases.

    Anyway very ballsy job ,deserves respect for sure, not the reverse.

    Fuck the ones pulling all the strings behind both sides of the conflict for their own reasons though.

    Really what should happen to the booers and protesters is that Mi5 and the cia should be filming them secrectly, finding out who they are, abducting the ring leaders off the streets, flying them out to bases in neutral lawless zones ,torture them for a number of months, get written confessions out them, lock them up in Gwatanimo bay and decide when to deal with them in a closed court session not open to any public law practitioners. that'll help.


    Oh hang on, that is what we do now .
    A lot of them do, but I imagine it must get pretty tiring having to explain constantly why they're idiots. I mean you probably would get pretty sick of it if you had to justify why those who started the bushfires were idiots, when all they may share with you is a faith or ethnicity. Also your average Muslim in Britain doesn't generally have the best access to mass media organization. Its not like Ahmed from down the road can exactly march into the BBC & demand a five minute section on the 6 o clock news to say why he doesn't like the moronic jihadists.
    True mate ,but I was thinking more of the leaders, Mullahs and the like who have whole groups following their words.
    These community leaders from each town from within each Mosque need to have the balls to speak out against the Jihad mentality.
    At least some of the dumb ones from on our side wouldn't continue to view all Musliums as a threat then. Also their followers would follow their leaders promt in separating themselves from it and may keep their own children away from the brainwashing that can occur behind the scenes.

    Its a tough one, cause they may be targeted themselves if they rise up publicly against the outer wings; Scarey bunch of nutters, Im not sure what their reach is, I imagine its long and harsh.
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    Default Re: Booing of Britains returning 'heroes' - what's your take on it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    IF you agree with the war or not , the soldiers have risked their lives , anyone who boo's them should be shot for treason.
    I am happy to stand by what is said earlier , fact is the twats who are booing our troops would be the first to cry for help if we were being attacked by a hostile nation.
    Im sick of this nanny state , this politically correctness gone mad , i personally would not stand for this kind of bullshit , and im ashamed that the powers that be cant , or havent got the balls to sort this mess we call Britain out. Im totally sick of mindless religious bigot's , they can all go fuck themselves .
    You know that for a fact?

    It seems to me a lot of people have fallen for the propaganda which has been put out to group opposers of the war together with Religous extremists in an attempt to define one specific enemy which further strengthens our case for illegally invading another country.

    There is a massive difference between religous extremists and those living within this country who strongly appose the war. Booing at a parade which imo is a government PR attempt to strengthen the 'heroes' bandwagon, is the most obvious way to show your dis-appreciation.

    Whether it's right or wrong to boo the troops who probably don't even know the reasons behind the invasion is another matter, but we shouldn't act surprised when people publicly oppose it......and we shouldn't act suprised when the media portray these apposers as religous extremists.

    All in my opinion of course.

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    ha..."illegal invasion" Has there ever been a legal invasion? I imagine depending on which side of the invasion you are on you might not describe it as legal. Ono I think your choice of the phrase "Illegal Invasion" is also a attempt by the left wing media to "criminalize" it somehow much like your opinion of the media showing religious extremists.
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    Do not even give these idiots the energy of thinking about them. They have the freedom to object ad should be thankful for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    ha..."illegal invasion" Has there ever been a legal invasion? I imagine depending on which side of the invasion you are on you might not describe it as legal. Ono I think your choice of the phrase "Illegal Invasion" is also a attempt by the left wing media to "criminalize" it somehow much like your opinion of the media showing religious extremists.
    I don't know about that, i don't read any left wing newspapers
    Even Richard Perle - former chairman of the DPB (at the time of the invasion he was chairman and he influenced the invasion) admitted that it was illegal...but justified. Of course no WMD's were recovered so it's hard to make a case for it being justified.

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    Default Re: Booing of Britains returning 'heroes' - what's your take on it?

    Look as everyone knows I am a American soldier who has deployed to both Iraq and Afghanistan. Now knowing that the intel on WMD was flat out wrong I too think the invasion was not justified. I just don't understand the phrase of "illegal" in terms of a military invasion of another country. What makes one legal? It just seems a phrase used to paint the national leaders who put it in progress as criminals. Misinformed...Misguided...poor planners...arogant...sure all apply but criminal? In the end a murderous despot was unseated and possibly a democratic non fundamentalist government is formed in the middle of an area strategically important and unfriendly to the western world. The impact this could have is tremendous. Will it succede? Maybe, maybe not. Was it worth the lives spent to get it? Probably not. But I think if it succedes the world is a better place for it. Being the worlds police force is crappy gig though. Damned if you do...Damned if you don't.
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    Default Re: Booing of Britains returning 'heroes' - what's your take on it?

    Shame on those pachule smelling ,latte sipping hippies.I'm All for free expression and believe it is not only the right of the citizens to stand up and keep the Governments in check...but it is a citizens duty to speak up!!That said,put ones politics aside for one gotdamn minute and understand that these men and women are the same ones waiting behind you at the market....driving along side on the roads.....working some shite job busing your tables where you dine etc.The problem spawns from the shifty politicians with agendas who wrap themselves in the flag.A generation ago.....we had the booing and much worse happen to our returning vets from Vietnam war.My Father & his kid brother.Do not scorn a generation,they are left to shoulder sights and experiences many could never imagine....and hopefully will never have to live!They deserve the utmost respect!

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