They both sound like they were talking shit to be fair, Warren saying he had a verbal agreement from Joe but being unable to produce a shred of evidence, whilst Joe claims he was forced to sign his fight contracts 'under duress'

Are we expected to believe that Frank strapped him to a chair in only his underpants and had torturers threaten to break his thumbs unless he signed the contracts?

Maybe that's why he had all that hand trouble?