Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?

[Diane]

If I am not mistaken, the score cards come into effect after the 4th round. It looked like Barrera was given the opportunity, and was probably advised at the time. So the loss is all on Barrera and his team.

It is also the job of the ref, and the ringside doctor, to look out for the best interest of a fighter. When a man has a 3 inch gash on his head, that is spewing blood uncontrollably, then the doctor should be stopping the fight even if the fighter thinks he can continue. What doctor would allow a person that gets a 3 inch cut on his head in the 1st round, to continue fighting, and risking the cut to be ripped open even more? That was an incompetent doctor if you ask me.

[Rocky Balboa]

I think it is 100% safe to blame MAB entirely on the cut. That cut was horrible, MAB would have beaten Khan if it weren't for the headbutt.

[fan johnny]

If I am not mistaken, the score cards come into effect after the 4th round. It looked like Barrera was given the opportunity, and was probably advised at the time. So the loss is all on Barrera and his team.

It is also the job of the ref, and the ringside doctor, to look out for the best interest of a fighter. When a man has a 3 inch gash on his head, that is spewing blood uncontrollably, then the doctor should be stopping the fight even if the fighter thinks he can continue. What doctor would allow a person that gets a 3 inch cut on his head in the 1st round, to continue fighting, and risking the cut to be ripped open even more? That was an incompetent doctor if you ask me.

I didn't really give it that much thought........... I'm convinced... yep... your right! so then why didn't they stop it sooner? I'd still give 40% of the blame to MAB. How do I change my vote?

[Gandalf]

If I am not mistaken, the score cards come into effect after the 4th round. It looked like Barrera was given the opportunity, and was probably advised at the time. So the loss is all on Barrera and his team.

It is also the job of the ref, and the ringside doctor, to look out for the best interest of a fighter. When a man has a 3 inch gash on his head, that is spewing blood uncontrollably, then the doctor should be stopping the fight even if the fighter thinks he can continue. What doctor would allow a person that gets a 3 inch cut on his head in the 1st round, to continue fighting, and risking the cut to be ripped open even more? That was an incompetent doctor if you ask me.

It's a disgrace. And I'm still livid about it all.

They could see the bloody skull?? How was this fight not stopped? This is borderline criminal that Barrera was allowed to continue!!!!

[Kel]

If I am not mistaken, the score cards come into effect after the 4th round. It looked like Barrera was given the opportunity, and was probably advised at the time. So the loss is all on Barrera and his team.

It is also the job of the ref, and the ringside doctor, to look out for the best interest of a fighter. When a man has a 3 inch gash on his head, that is spewing blood uncontrollably, then the doctor should be stopping the fight even if the fighter thinks he can continue. What doctor would allow a person that gets a 3 inch cut on his head in the 1st round, to continue fighting, and risking the cut to be ripped open even more? That was an incompetent doctor if you ask me.

Your right! Would they have let him fight on if he was clearly in trouble and taking too much punishment? No chance! Warriors like Barrera will fight to the end regardless, that is why doctors have the power to stop a fight when injuries like this occur. The cut was horrible from the start, the ref took MAB to the doctor for a look and he let the fight go on. The gash needed 33 stitches to close, what doctor would ever say "that's ok he can fight on"

[Gandalf]

If I am not mistaken, the score cards come into effect after the 4th round. It looked like Barrera was given the opportunity, and was probably advised at the time. So the loss is all on Barrera and his team.

It is also the job of the ref, and the ringside doctor, to look out for the best interest of a fighter. When a man has a 3 inch gash on his head, that is spewing blood uncontrollably, then the doctor should be stopping the fight even if the fighter thinks he can continue. What doctor would allow a person that gets a 3 inch cut on his head in the 1st round, to continue fighting, and risking the cut to be ripped open even more? That was an incompetent doctor if you ask me.

Your right! Would they have let him fight on if he was clearly in trouble and taking too much punishment? No chance! Warriors like Barrera will fight to the end regardless, that is why doctors have the power to stop a fight when injuries like this occur. The cut was horrible from the start, the ref took MAB to the doctor for a look and he let the fight go on. The gash needed 33 stitches to close, what doctor would ever say "that's ok he can fight on"

It's a farce. Barrera was okay to continue in the 4th according to the doctor and yet by the end of the 5th it was suddenly too bad?? It was exactly the same as in the 1st round!!!

[TeleTuff]

Jury still out on Hhan!

Fast hands,hard punches,very strong at 135,needs more big fights.

[XaduBoxer]

This is getting funny...

- Barrera himself decided to continue fighting

- The referee/doctor decided to let the fight continue up to the 5th

- But some people (probably MAB fans) screaming for the fight to be stopped after round 1 in order to have a no contest...

Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?

There's really no solid basis on when to stop the fight...
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[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

This is getting funny...

- Barrera himself decided to continue fighting

- The referee/doctor decided to let the fight continue up to the 5th

- But some people (probably MAB fans) screaming for the fight to be stopped after round 1 in order to have a no contest...

Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?

There's really no solid basis on when to stop the fight...
.

Why did the referee/doctor let the fight continue? so Khan can win. you'd have to be blind to not see that that cut was bad they let him finish, wait about half a round and pulled the plug in order for Khan to get the win.

[XaduBoxer]

This is getting funny...

- Barrera himself decided to continue fighting

- The referee/doctor decided to let the fight continue up to the 5th

- But some people (probably MAB fans) screaming for the fight to be stopped after round 1 in order to have a no contest...

Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?

There's really no solid basis on when to stop the fight...
.

Why did the referee/doctor let the fight continue? so Khan can win. you'd have to be blind to not see that that cut was bad they let him finish, wait about half a round and pulled the plug in order for Khan to get the win.

I really don't know but I'm guessing they're giving Barrera a chance but the cut worsened and they eventually pull the plug... I really don't know...

Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?
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[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

This is getting funny...

- Barrera himself decided to continue fighting

- The referee/doctor decided to let the fight continue up to the 5th

- But some people (probably MAB fans) screaming for the fight to be stopped after round 1 in order to have a no contest...

Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?

There's really no solid basis on when to stop the fight...
.

Why did the referee/doctor let the fight continue? so Khan can win. you'd have to be blind to not see that that cut was bad they let him finish, wait about half a round and pulled the plug in order for Khan to get the win.

I really don't know but I'm guessing they're giving Barrera a chance but the cut worsened and they eventually pull the plug... I really don't know...

Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?
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I guess it was up to them but Barrera keep goin thinkin he was goin to be allowed to keep fightin all 12 rounds not half a round more

Like Miles said "The officials all have question marks surrounding them and should be investigated."

[Gandalf]

This is getting funny...

- Barrera himself decided to continue fighting

- The referee/doctor decided to let the fight continue up to the 5th

- But some people (probably MAB fans) screaming for the fight to be stopped after round 1 in order to have a no contest...

Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?

There's really no solid basis on when to stop the fight...
.

Barrera was never going to quit, was he now? It's not for him to decide anyway when he has a cut as long and deep as that. He did not have a mirror, he most likely didnt know or believe it was as bad as it was.

The officials all have question marks surrounding them and should be investigated.

In the case of the Abraham fight. Yes, it was a terrible injury but a different type of injury entirely. The broken jaw doesnt stop you seeing punches coming. It probably hurts a lot though. And the Katsidis fight was WELL underway before the damage became REALLY bad. If the fight is reaching the climax and it's competitive then the fighter should be allowed to see it through.

But this was a butt in the second minute of the fight that would have affected Barrera badly for the entire fight. A different situation and one that should be considered on its own terms. These other fights are just you taking the argument on a tangent.

[Kev]

This is getting funny...

- Barrera himself decided to continue fighting

- The referee/doctor decided to let the fight continue up to the 5th

- But some people (probably MAB fans) screaming for the fight to be stopped after round 1 in order to have a no contest...

Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?

There's really no solid basis on when to stop the fight...
.

To be fair there is a difference between the Abraham Miranda fight and this one in that I believe Abraham's jaw was ruled caused by a punch. That meant if the fight got stopped Miranda automatically wins.

Abraham didn't WANT to carry on, if you've seen that fight his corner have to keep reassuring him that he's winning the fight and just stay away and make it to the final bell. The referee helped of course taking points away from Miranda for things like punching and looking menacing.

But as for the referee stopping the fight earlier it's really not his fault at all imo, it was down to Barrera and his team, maybe the doctor, although to be fair he was right there and the most qualified person in the ring to determine if Barrera could keep going or not.

I don't know if you remember a couple years ago when Laurance Cole advised J M Marquez to quit due to the cut he had sustained via a headbutt telling him he was well ahead on the score cards.

People went nuts, Larry Merchant said he should never be allowed to referee again. The referee CANNOT advise a fighter as to what he should do and if the ref and tried to encourage Barrera to quit he would face severe penalties.

At the end of the day the referee consults with the doctor and asks the fighter if he's ok to continue. If the doctor and the fighter think it can go on then the ref will let it go on.