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    Default Re: Mayweather coming back?!!! July 11th!!!

    Interesting news. I will be curious to see if he just takes a tune up first.

    I would like to see him fight Mosley or Cotto above all others. The Manny Pac fight doesn't really interest me yet as Manny is still unproven above 135. If he can beat Hatton then my thoughts might change. But as of now? No.

    Mayweather needs to beat the best big WW's.

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    Default Re: Mayweather coming back?!!! July 11th!!!

    I'm only interested if he fights the right guys and at the appropriate weight classes.

    i.e. don't Manny/Hatton/JMM up to WW. and if he does fight at WW lets see Cotto or Mosley.

    It'd be good if he could come back with a different attitude outside the ring also - Hatton & Pac have shown that two nice guys can sell a fight, not every fight needs a turd to dislike. He definitely has it in him because he's always respectful after the fight.

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    Will be awesome if its true
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    Default Re: Mayweather coming back?!!! July 11th!!!

    Mayweather's biggest threat is Pacquiao, Pacquiao has everything that troubles Mayweather, and thats unbelievable speed, he's aggressive, great chin, and he's southpaw. People think Judah would have been Mayweather's biggest test if he had throw more punches, well that is Pacquiao, he is more accurate than Judah, moves and is way better offensively, if Mayweather is too defensive he would get inundated against Manny which IMO means he would have to change his gameplan.

    I don't think Mosley has the offensively skills to really push Mayweather same way, I think Mosley does great against linear fighters, but movement and Mayweather defense would frustrate him greatly.

    Also what I don't get is that Mayweather is a natural 130 pound fighter, people didn't think he would stand a chance at 140 or above, yet now people are complaining he was too big for Hatton, he isn't that much bigger than Pacquiao and Marquez, he would be about an inch taller and probably 3-5 pounds heavier in the ring.
    Last edited by Taeth; 03-19-2009 at 03:12 AM.

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    Sweet. I knew it would happen.
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    Default Re: Mayweather coming back?!!! July 11th!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Mayweather's biggest threat is Pacquiao, Pacquiao has everything that troubles Mayweather, and thats unbelievable speed, he's aggressive, great chin, and he's southpaw. People think Judah would have been Mayweather's biggest test if he had throw more punches, well that is Pacquiao, he is more accurate than Judah, moves and is way better offensively, if Mayweather is too defensive he would get inundated against Manny which IMO means he would have to change his gameplan.

    I don't think Mosley has the offensively skills to really push Mayweather same way, I think Mosley does great against linear fighters, but movement and Mayweather defense would frustrate him greatly.

    Also what I don't get is that Mayweather is a natural 130 pound fighter, people didn't think he would stand a chance at 140 or above, yet now people are complaining he was too big for Hatton, he isn't that much bigger than Pacquiao and Marquez, he would be about an inch taller and probably 3-5 pounds heavier in the ring.
    Not that I disagree with what you're saying, because I don't in this case, but I believe the crux of the argument about Hatton and Mayweather at 147 is that Mayweather had more time to acclimatize his body to the weight. It's a complete straw man though.
    Last edited by CFH; 03-19-2009 at 04:41 AM.

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    Default Re: Mayweather coming back?!!! July 11th!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Mayweather's biggest threat is Pacquiao, Pacquiao has everything that troubles Mayweather, and thats unbelievable speed, he's aggressive, great chin, and he's southpaw. People think Judah would have been Mayweather's biggest test if he had throw more punches, well that is Pacquiao, he is more accurate than Judah, moves and is way better offensively, if Mayweather is too defensive he would get inundated against Manny which IMO means he would have to change his gameplan.

    I don't think Mosley has the offensively skills to really push Mayweather same way, I think Mosley does great against linear fighters, but movement and Mayweather defense would frustrate him greatly.

    Also what I don't get is that Mayweather is a natural 130 pound fighter, people didn't think he would stand a chance at 140 or above, yet now people are complaining he was too big for Hatton, he isn't that much bigger than Pacquiao and Marquez, he would be about an inch taller and probably 3-5 pounds heavier in the ring.
    Not that I disagree, because I don't in this case, but I believe the crux of the argument about Hatton and Mayweather at 147 is that Mayweather had more time to acclimatize his body to the weight. It's a complete straw man though.
    That's true - I just wish Mayweather had took the fight at 140 - he'd have made that weight no problems and given no one any excuses to niggle at the win. He would have beat the best LW in the world at LW.

    No biggie I think he beats Hatton at either weight.

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    Props to Floyd, he's learning now how to finish a fight.

    I pick Floyd to win the fight coz Hatton's arms is only 20" & only 5'6" short. Pac's 5'6 1/2" & 25" long from Armpit to fist. Pac is a Different animal than Hatton, He's faster, Punch straighter, Better head movement, quick footed. Watch Pac in any fight, he's not that hittable with the left hook. The opponent has to deal with Pac's Jab in order to be hit by a Left hook.
    You haven't seen the welter Pac yet. You've only seen the 130 Pac with the Power of a middleweight.

    Pac will be busy with JMM, Diaz & maybe DLH. PBF will take a Break, He'll not fight Cotto or any of the Bigger welter. hatton will Probably will be back at 140 fighting Witter or Torres. Pac might fight Hatton in England after DLH.
    PBF will come out of retirement to fight Pac after all thoose Big fights.

    You guys want me to tell what's going to happen next?


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    Both Hatton and PAcquiao are 5'6, and Floyd certainly never looked 2 inches taller than Hatton, I think 5'8 is a generous height for Floyd, he's more 5'7

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    Default Re: Mayweather coming back?!!! July 11th!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Mayweather's biggest threat is Pacquiao, Pacquiao has everything that troubles Mayweather, and thats unbelievable speed, he's aggressive, great chin, and he's southpaw. People think Judah would have been Mayweather's biggest test if he had throw more punches, well that is Pacquiao, he is more accurate than Judah, moves and is way better offensively, if Mayweather is too defensive he would get inundated against Manny which IMO means he would have to change his gameplan.

    I don't think Mosley has the offensively skills to really push Mayweather same way, I think Mosley does great against linear fighters, but movement and Mayweather defense would frustrate him greatly.

    Also what I don't get is that Mayweather is a natural 130 pound fighter, people didn't think he would stand a chance at 140 or above, yet now people are complaining he was too big for Hatton, he isn't that much bigger than Pacquiao and Marquez, he would be about an inch taller and probably 3-5 pounds heavier in the ring.
    He as a natural 130 fighter in his early 20's. He filled out into a natural 140 pound fighter, but he went for the bigger $$ and prestige of the WW division. There is no way he was too big for Hatton. Floyd has a style and the skills to fight way above his proper weight class whereas Hatton does not.

    How much is Floyd hoping the Pacman beats Hatton? Now I might have to root for Pac because I would love to see Pac against Floyd. That would be my #1 dream matchup right now, followed by Floyd/Mosley.

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    If Floyd really does come back I would be so happy. I don't care who the hell he fights as long as somewhere down the line he beats the shit out of pac man for us, thats if pac man is still able to walk on May 3rd.

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    Tune up fight...? while on the surface it's sounds like an insult to say JMM.... and while I have great respect for JMM accomplishments fighting his way back to the top of the game.... Style wise, JMM is no match for PBF. Look at how he performed against Chris John.... PBF has a tougher time against Khan.... and Khan shouldn't even be mentioned with the same breath as JMM.... Like the man said "Styles make fights".

    What the hell....??

    Now having said that, if JMM were to catch Floyd with something... well... he's a very dangerous fighter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Tune up fight...? while on the surface it's sounds like an insult to say JMM.... and while I have great respect for JMM accomplishments fighting his way back to the top of the game.... Style wise, JMM is no match for PBF. Look at how he performed against Chris John.... PBF has a tougher time against Khan.... and Khan shouldn't even be mentioned with the same breath as JMM.... Like the man said "Styles make fights".

    What the hell....??

    Now having said that, if JMM were to catch Floyd with something... well... he's a very dangerous fighter!
    Mayweather took shots from Oscar and Judah cleanly and was fine, both hit a lot harder than Marquez, I am not saying anything can't happen, but Marquez is the least likely person out of him, Cotto, Pacquiao, and Mosley to stop Mayweather.

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    Well the one i think that can beat Mayweather is Mosley he has the chin, Speed, power and stamina to do it somthing Dela hoy did not. Pac had problems with Marquaz because of his defence and boxing skill what the hell is he going to do to Mayweather who is far better. Then there is Cotto who is chinny and also has stamina issues in the last few rounds. And as for Margrito well he out of question now but even if he was he is to slow and would not be able to get anything done because of speed.

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    Default Re: Mayweather coming back?!!! July 11th!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Mayweather's biggest threat is Pacquiao, Pacquiao has everything that troubles Mayweather, and thats unbelievable speed, he's aggressive, great chin, and he's southpaw. People think Judah would have been Mayweather's biggest test if he had throw more punches, well that is Pacquiao, he is more accurate than Judah, moves and is way better offensively, if Mayweather is too defensive he would get inundated against Manny which IMO means he would have to change his gameplan.

    I don't think Mosley has the offensively skills to really push Mayweather same way, I think Mosley does great against linear fighters, but movement and Mayweather defense would frustrate him greatly.

    Also what I don't get is that Mayweather is a natural 130 pound fighter, people didn't think he would stand a chance at 140 or above, yet now people are complaining he was too big for Hatton, he isn't that much bigger than Pacquiao and Marquez, he would be about an inch taller and probably 3-5 pounds heavier in the ring.
    Pacquiao may give PBF trouble, but he also may be too small for PBF at welterweight. At 140 or at 135, and you have a tough fight to pick. A bigger version of Pacquiao would give PBF trouble.

    The fight I most want to see is against Mosley. He showed me a lot against Margarito. Depending on Cotto's performance against Clottey, he would be my second pick.

    PBF may be a natural 130 pound fighter but he is fighting now at welterweight. Hatton is not a natural welterweight. Pacquiao is not a natural welterweight. Mosley may be a natural welterweight. Cotto is a natural welterweight. Maybe Williams at 147 if he beats Winky?
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 03-19-2009 at 02:08 PM.

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