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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    I am hoping that both Jones and Byrd lose this weekend and hang them up. Jones really can't do anymore for his legacy, this is just payday events from here on out. As far as the fight itself goes, I'm actually backing Sheika here with no confidence though. Sheika should be durable and active enough to win a points decision here, barring of course his hands don't break early in the fight. And no, I won't pay for this.

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    I hope Jones stops...it would be nice if he got a Vitali injury and could not fight this weekend but I know that will probably not happen and this crappy card will go on anyways. Plus if Jones looks good and knocks out Sheika impressively he will say that he is back and that he wants Hopkins or that he will probably go up and fight at heavyweight again blah blah blah.

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    MMA and boxing on the same card? What a great way to bring in profits and fill the seats for the same event :P

    Ken Shamrock was going to be fighting on the undercard as well but he tested positive for three types of steroids from his last fight .. so thats it for him.
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    I dont know if he can even beat Shieka at this point. Omar always comes to fight and if Roy isnt at his best possible, he will probably lose. I hope its a draw.
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    Im guessing this is a look good fight for Roy because its in Pensacola his hometown. Would be nice if it was some sort of farewell fight. But according to Roy in interviews he intends to try to win another world title even at 40.
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    it will be truly sad if rjj loses again....the guy has a ton of cash so I dont think he is doing it for the money.....I think he cant let go....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    it will be truly sad if rjj loses again....the guy has a ton of cash so I dont think he is doing it for the money.....I think he cant let go....
    I think he sees what Hopkins is doing at 40+ and is wondering why he can't do the same given that he beat Hopkins all those years ago and considers himself the better fighter.

    Well, when he went up and down in weight for the Ruiz and then the Tarver fight he shot himself. He took away about maybe 5 or 6 years of his career. Hopkins even when he moved up the same kind of way he did to 175 didn't come back down. He stayed around the 170 zone for the remainder of his career and has never gone lower. He didn't drop 25 pounds because he knew it would take his legs take his etc away.


    Roy took care of his body his entire career but that move down basically ended it maybe about 5 years shorter then it could have been.

    It has nothing to do with his status as a great fighter, he shot his body, and it's not been the same since.

    But Im thinking Roy doesn't see it that way and probably is gonna keep going until he wins a title or beats Hopkins again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    it will be truly sad if rjj loses again....the guy has a ton of cash so I dont think he is doing it for the money.....I think he cant let go....
    For certain it is becaus he can't let go...I seen him in an interview and he feels he has really never been betaen...Not just excuses but really believes that...This was a bit before the Calzaghe fight....

    Jones is o exception many many fightrs who had great careers sufer the same fate....

    I just hope he wakes up before he gets hurt...A loss to Sheika would really be an embaressment for him...A bigger embaressment then the one sided affair with Calzaghe
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Only one thing thats keeping jones in a boxing ring and thats money
    Nope, Jones has plenty of money.

    The thing that's keeping him in the ring is denial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Only one thing thats keeping jones in a boxing ring and thats money
    Nope, Jones has plenty of money.

    The thing that's keeping him in the ring is denial.
    How do you know though? Personal friend? Work for his bank?

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    What if Jones really isnt as shot to pieces as everyone thinks and that maybe Tarver, Johnson and Calzaghe would always have had his number?

    I think Jones fans would rather say jones is ruined than admit he got beaten by the better man

    I think Jones stops Sheika and early, Sheika has a decent chin and if Jones can do that I dont think hes shot, not just yet anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What if Jones really isnt as shot to pieces as everyone thinks and that maybe Tarver, Johnson and Calzaghe would always have had his number?

    I think Jones fans would rather say jones is ruined than admit he got beaten by the better man
    And I think Calzaghe, Tarver and Johnson fans would rather say that then admit he was ruined
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What if Jones really isnt as shot to pieces as everyone thinks and that maybe Tarver, Johnson and Calzaghe would always have had his number?

    I think Jones fans would rather say jones is ruined than admit he got beaten by the better man

    I think Jones stops Sheika and early, Sheika has a decent chin and if Jones can do that I dont think hes shot, not just yet anyway
    It not about the guys he fought, just watch Jones performance in the ring. His movement, coordination, etc. he is clearly past it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What if Jones really isnt as shot to pieces as everyone thinks and that maybe Tarver, Johnson and Calzaghe would always have had his number?

    I think Jones fans would rather say jones is ruined than admit he got beaten by the better man

    I think Jones stops Sheika and early, Sheika has a decent chin and if Jones can do that I dont think hes shot, not just yet anyway
    It not about the guys he fought, just watch Jones performance in the ring. His movement, coordination, etc. he is clearly past it.
    He fought Ruiz and Woods exactly the same, he backed up to the ropes put the ear muffs on and tried rattling quick shots off, against better fighters like Tarver, Johnson and Calzaghe, it isnt going to be enough but he will still get away with it against Sheika and a few others.

    I say if he beats Sheika good and proper and gets his fans all excited, let him have his chance against Dawson.

    In Jones eyes, he lost to the best pound for pound fighter around his weight, so its not that bad, if he feel he has a genuine chance against Dawson, who is anyone to argue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What if Jones really isnt as shot to pieces as everyone thinks and that maybe Tarver, Johnson and Calzaghe would always have had his number?

    I think Jones fans would rather say jones is ruined than admit he got beaten by the better man

    I think Jones stops Sheika and early, Sheika has a decent chin and if Jones can do that I dont think hes shot, not just yet anyway
    It not about the guys he fought, just watch Jones performance in the ring. His movement, coordination, etc. he is clearly past it.
    He fought Ruiz and Woods exactly the same, he backed up to the ropes put the ear muffs on and tried rattling quick shots off, against better fighters like Tarver, Johnson and Calzaghe, it isnt going to be enough but he will still get away with it against Sheika and a few others.

    I say if he beats Sheika good and proper and gets his fans all excited, let him have his chance against Dawson.

    In Jones eyes, he lost to the best pound for pound fighter around his weight, so its not that bad, if he feel he has a genuine chance against Dawson, who is anyone to argue?
    I'll argue, the are a number of reasons that Sheika who is battle torn himself might not be able to perform
    #1 his left hand, high probability of re-injury
    #2 his right hand, high probability of re-injury
    #3 his knee, high probability of re-injury
    #4 slowed reactions

    No I don't think there is anything in a win over Sheika, that would give any evidence of how he would do against a young, fast, accurate Dawson who is now in his prime. Sheika to Dawson are about as opposites as you can get in the ring.
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