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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

    It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

    Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



    I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one
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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

    It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

    Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



    I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one
    I think a rematch is the only way to settle it. But you have to argue, why would Barrera ever want to go through that again. Khan could do it but he wouldn't in a million years.

    I honestly think Barrera would spark him in 8.

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    timing.


    If the reports are accurate it means he is out for 5 to 6 months. I believe the plan would have been to manouvre him for a world title sooner rather than later.

    As it is Khan moves up that spot & Barrera, Barrera would have challenged for a title as his next fight, fairly sure of this, Khan gets 1 or 2 easy fights to polish up his new style and a title shot.

    Who knows maybe see if Khan can get an alphabet title during his lay off, Barrera challenges for a rematch & gets a title at a 4th weight

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

    It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

    Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



    I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one
    Nah Lewis beat Vitali fair and sqaure . He punched Vitali until he could no longer go on . Thats a legit stoppage . No headbutts involved but when a guy nuts the other in the opening seconds they shouldnt have waited conveniently until round 5 to stop it . They only made Barrera suffer that long so they could call Khan the winner.

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    I agree.

    It should of been stopped in the first.

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

    It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

    Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



    I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one
    Nah Lewis beat Vitali fair and sqaure . He punched Vitali until he could no longer go on . Thats a legit stoppage . No headbutts involved but when a guy nuts the other in the opening seconds they shouldnt have waited conveniently until round 5 to stop it . They only made Barrera suffer that long so they could call Khan the winner.
    Yes I know Lewis beat Vitali fair and square - which is why I said that ??
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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Wonder whats gonna happen when Khan when Khan wins again

    Probably the same journalists will be saying that the cut caused Barerra the loss will be saying Barerra should havent fought again and how easily Khan handled him in the first fight showed he had nothing left...

    And suddenly the cut will not be a factor in Barerra's performance of the first fight, it will be evidence he was past it, and Khan will get no credit once again.

    Another lose-lose situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Wonder whats gonna happen when Khan when Khan wins again

    Probably the same journalists will be saying that the cut caused Barerra the loss will be saying Barerra should havent fought again and how easily Khan handled him in the first fight showed he had nothing left...

    And suddenly the cut will not be a factor in Barerra's performance of the first fight, it will be evidence he was past it, and Khan will get no credit once again.

    Another lose-lose situation
    I have to agree. Maybe it should have been a NC but i still think Khan beats him again, to big to fast.

    Also I aint payin to watch it again.Im sure alot of other people wouldn't either. Makes no sense for Khan now. his team wanna take the confidence he gained and move on.
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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Ok,going way smaller,but to put it in to perspective,Rivas's people want a rematch and so do we,because it got screwed up by a bad corner,and we arent sure who would have won.
    So Rivas isnt sure she won,and we arent sure we lost.
    Khan should want the same thing if he was a true warrior,he should want to prove that wasnt a fluke,or because of the cut,but that he can really beat the man.
    Tap tap on the heart to Lorissa for being more of a warrior then Khan is.
    I actually wanted to like Khan,but he's being a total douche

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Wonder whats gonna happen when Khan when Khan wins again

    Probably the same journalists will be saying that the cut caused Barerra the loss will be saying Barerra should havent fought again and how easily Khan handled him in the first fight showed he had nothing left...

    And suddenly the cut will not be a factor in Barerra's performance of the first fight, it will be evidence he was past it, and Khan will get no credit once again.

    Another lose-lose situation
    So are you trying to say that the cut had no bearing on Barrera's performance?

    Well I'm sorry but when you have that much blood pissing in your eyes that you surely can't see, you are at a disadvantage. Even Ali needed his eyes, remember the first fight with Liston when he was blinded? He had to dance and stay out of the way until his vision cleared and then got back into his groove and tormented Sonny into quitting.

    I think that a similar thing could have happened here but Barrera was never going to clear up because it was a CUT that was making him blind and therefore due to the severity of the cut initially, it should have been waved off at the end of round 1 and ultimately called a NC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Wonder whats gonna happen when Khan when Khan wins again

    Probably the same journalists will be saying that the cut caused Barerra the loss will be saying Barerra should havent fought again and how easily Khan handled him in the first fight showed he had nothing left...

    And suddenly the cut will not be a factor in Barerra's performance of the first fight, it will be evidence he was past it, and Khan will get no credit once again.

    Another lose-lose situation
    So are you trying to say that the cut had no bearing on Barrera's performance?

    Well I'm sorry but when you have that much blood pissing in your eyes that you surely can't see, you are at a disadvantage. Even Ali needed his eyes, remember the first fight with Liston when he was blinded? He had to dance and stay out of the way until his vision cleared and then got back into his groove and tormented Sonny into quitting.

    I think that a similar thing could have happened here but Barrera was never going to clear up because it was a CUT that was making him blind and therefore due to the severity of the cut initially, it should have been waved off at the end of round 1 and ultimately called a NC.
    What im saying is when Khan wins the rematch he will get no credit still.

    Because the reason Barerra lost will be because he was past it and the first fight with Khan will be used as evidence for that, and rather then the journalists saying the cut was the reason Barerra looked bad, they will say the reason was he was past it and the fight just proved it.

    So its a lose-lose for Khan. What I mean is to the journalists the cut means something now..

    But if they rematch and Khan wins they will say that the first fight was evidence Barerra was past it and somehow the cut theory will be ignored.
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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    2 minutes of action 7 or 8 punches land, sorry but Mystic Meg could not predict the outcome.

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

    It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

    Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



    I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one
    Nah Lewis beat Vitali fair and sqaure . He punched Vitali until he could no longer go on . Thats a legit stoppage . No headbutts involved but when a guy nuts the other in the opening seconds they shouldnt have waited conveniently until round 5 to stop it . They only made Barrera suffer that long so they could call Khan the winner.
    give me a fucking break....nobody made Barrera do anything, his pride was the reason the fight went on, he could have refused to go on and it would have been a NC, and nobody in their right mind would be able to say shit with how bad the cut was, end of story

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    Wink Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Have to correct you. If Barrera or his corner pull out it's a TKO loss. It's a NC if the ref/doc stop it before the 5th.

    If they (the ref/doc) don't stop it he has to go for the KO because they (mab & corner) know it can't go 12 with that head wound.

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    & I repeat, the doctor did not examine the cut. Check out the interaction in round 4. The doctor & Barrera are talking, blood is dripping off his eyebrow down his face. The doctor never examines the cut.... very poor.

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